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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] bhamlin@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Octopodeez nuts

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please don't beat your meat to octopodes

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Hey, we're not hurting anyone!!!

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It is octopodes. It's Greek and it follows the Greek pluralisation convention.

[–] Verito@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Words brought into English can use English pluralisations, so you're not wrong if you say octopuses. I think Grammar Girl had a take on this maybe 7 or even 8 years ago by now. These days, I can't see myself getting worked up about it for the sheer fun of being pedantic like I used to.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

It's not octopuses that octopodes corrects, it's octopi. Octopi is a Latin pluralization, and since the word is Greek and us to i isn't specifically American, I agree with you that octopuses is fine but not that octopi is fine.

[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Octopussy. Thank you very much.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Im_old@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I knew there was going to be someone as ~~childish~~ funny as me in here!

[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

When a Roman family has their 16th child.

[–] Drusas@kbin.run 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Octopus, octopuses, and octopodes are correct. Octopi incorrect.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 3 points 1 year ago

In greek it would be incorrect, in english it's not worse than the others.

[–] matrixrunner@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you say ok-top-o-dees, you'd better be prepared to deliver this spiel at a moment's notice

HA! That video was really good. Extremely quick and to the point, great linguistics content, and funny to boot!

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Octopi is a hypercorrectism which doesn't make it wrong

[–] preussischblau@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

A hypercorrection based on a misunderstanding of the Latin declension for the word, at that.

[–] Gemini24601@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Neither are incorrect, that’s the point

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just wanted to namedrop the technical term. Both are fine

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My favorite hypercorrection (a hyperforeignism, if you like) is "habañero," and really stressing the "ñ" when you say it.

Except it's just "habanero," plain ol' "n." The confusion is presumably due to "jalapeño" having an accent.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

If you want a hyper anglizism: I'm German and after an interview, a colleague of mine talked about the candidates' "vibes". My boss didn't get it's English and once she did, she pronounced it like "wipes". b>p at the end of words is what German always does and v>w to make it sound English since German has the /v/ sound but not /w/. I don't think it's a common thing tho.

[–] maniel@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Octopussies

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait is seriously everyone in here wrong?

Guys it's:
OCTOPEOPLE

Inclusion, let's keep it up.

[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am the guy in the middle, except I'm telling people it's octopuses.

[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do have the benefit of being right though.

The word octopus is a classical Greek word that comes to English via Latin. The Greek plural is octopodes, the Latin plural is octopi. But we don't speak Latin or classical Greek. We speak English. Because octopus is the English word for octopus it follows the English rules for pluralization, which is to add "s" or "es" to the end of the word. Cases can be made why octopi and octopodes could be technically correct, but for English speakers octopuses is the most correct.

[–] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I did something for work where I had to study up about it and instead of being angry it's just kind of a fun fact. I don't actually mind what people say, I think everyone understands what you mean regardless.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago
[–] kindenough@kbin.earth 4 points 1 year ago

Roger Moore would disagree.

[–] Sidhean@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Several of Octopus

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Why is octopi correct? Based on what?

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Because people use it, and if you say it everybody will understand without any ambiguity.

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[–] Zenjal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Octopipuses?

[–] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When I document code I have this problem with indices vs indexes.

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 1 points 1 year ago

I mostly write 'indexes' these days when I'm not on autopilot, in part since not all of my coworkers have a high English proficiency and just following the normal +(e)s plural makes it easier. My brain really does not want me to write 'matrixes' however (and indeed, my dictionary in this browser is fine with 'indexes' but not 'matrixes'). I also try not to be pedantic with verbs whose irregular forms have become less common than their "incorrect" (at least when I was taught) forms. "Shined" being one of these, but I am sure there are more.

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[–] msgraves@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Imagine speaking correct English

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Btw is there a difference between people.and persons? I hear both being used but i grew up with people.

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

people = a group

persons = a group of individuals

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Great question. When I hear people I think that’s used to draw attention to common relevant traits “people of England” for example. Persons is more a group of less related individuals or at least with less relevant similarities “persons of interest” for example

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