At least they took a stand. Thousands of other subs who got the same ultimatums just gave in no questions asked, no malicious compliance.
this post was submitted on 21 Jun 2023
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I can understand that, lot of smaller sub are build by themselves, not wanting to lose something you spend so much time building to some random smug is pretty much human, it isn't about holding that jANitOr job. I've seen a country sub i frequent goes from 4 digit to 6 digit in the span of 6 years, it's a lot of works. Also sub like r/projectzomboid is established by the company and mods are paid position, getting kick out is...weird lol.
The issue is, because it's "understandable", it's also what gives spez the power here. If they weren't willing to go all the way, they needn't have bothered with the blackout at all. There was never any actual hope spez would change his mind from a 2 day blackout, anyone that knows anything about how he's handled things in the past should have known this. This was always going to be a standoff.
Besides, after everything spez has done, these mods shouldn't want to be modding for the site anymore. Spez has displayed a level of malice and disrespect for everyone, especially them. Why give him free labor?
That's all it is. Every minute you spend moding reddit is polishing the investment you will never see a single dime of. Spez is going to get a good deal of money off you while spitting on you, and you will get nothing but saliva. Continuing to mod there is an acceptance of that.
Also, let's be real, this isn't the end of it. Reddit will continue to get worse as Spez continues down the Musk-path. Users already can't block certain advertising accounts; I promise you a day is coming when mods won't be able to stop them in their own communities if they decide to post there. Mods will be forced to make their communities adhere to even stricter "ad friendly" content guidelines, just like YouTube. Etc etc, on and on, ad infinitum. Why stay there for all that?
This is the time to leave, to find a new place to start your communities again, get in early and find places as mods around here.
"Every minute you spend moding reddit is polishing the investment you will never see a single dime of. Spez is going to get a good deal of money off you while spitting on you, and you will get nothing but saliva"
That's why I MANUALLY(R***** won't care deleting, cause those are, of course, their source for investment, so only I have to) delete all my posts, comments, history, profile and account including disjoining communities and connections (takes time ๐ฎโ๐จ but at least relieved from fear), forever and tough (let it go๐ค๐ต๐ถ), so that, the ungrateful head won't ever milk anymore information I had put.
Information(data stored on databases) has made their success and profit(of course necessary but became greedy), and now they disgrace and maltreat the ones who'd helped the site flourished to become a wonderful world we'd ever wanted.
I won't allow them to exploit any information from me whether personally, actually or technically (even a short comment or pic or data or a bit of silly word) for malice with AI coming(already here happening) to Internet.
Do to do fair action.
I think you're reading too much into it. Active users is where the money is, not outdated data. Just dont login or otherwise engage with reddit -that's what hurting them in the long run
The end result is the same so what did that stand achieve exactly
"You have to do what the users want, unless the users don't agree with us." -Reddit admin.
I guess I could see how this is infuriating to some without foresight, but when the event was expected from the very beginning I fail to understand how it would incite those feelings.
Reddit was always going to do this.
Well that went just as I expected it to. The admins are still the admins. They're the top of the power totem and that's that.
Honestly this protest's only purpose shouldve be to raise awareness of alternatives and tell people "were leaving Reddit, and this is where we're going" while we still can. Because Reddit is private property, and therefore will always be subject to the whims of its admins - regardless of how people believe it should be run of if people think it should tolerate protesting against the platform on the platform.
Everyone should've been aware that this protest could only have been temporary.
Sure we reminded them of the power we possess, but they've essentially reminded us that they possess more, and can remove that power regardless of how the community feels. Admins are and have always been at the top.
No one had any illusions about how this was going to go. The point was making them do it. The point was forcing Reddit into a PR nightmare just before their big IPO. The point was giving this platform traction. The fact that this post exists on this platform is proof that the mods succeeded. Sure, Reddit is still huge.. but with entire mod teams being replaced with Spez bootlickers it remains to be seen whether they can maintain what they have, or if this is Digg all over again.
It's hard to predict what will happen, but I'm here, and you're here, so something is happening.
I don't think reddit will die, but they definitely hurt themselves. The fediverse grew by leaps and bounds over the past week, reddit drove so much traffic to their potential competitors. Then when the 3rd party apps die, they'll lose some more.
Reddit is gambling on gaining enough revenue from pushing people on 3rd party apps to 1st party that it makes up for the loss of users overall.
People on reddit say "Why do we care about 3rd party apps, it's such a small section of the userbase" But apparently reddit cares enough about that small section of the userbase that they need to push them to their own app.
Nobody said it makes sense.
We'll see in a few days what the people end up choosing. I'm not going back unless demands are met, but I do have a tiny glimmer of hope that the people will let it go as apps disappear, and a slightly larger glimmer of hope that it'll just kinda shrivel over the following months and years.
But, in all likelihood, people are dumb, and spineless and ignorant, and will continue to make spez money and the durability of the site will endure. It'll be worse, but not worse enough for the vast majority of normal people to not use it. I have hope, but it's simply hope in the face of my ever growing misanthropy.
Obligatory Fuck spez
They should migrate to lemmy.
Just did.
What a fucking circus that reddit has become in just the last couple of weeks.
I was still popping last week, but its all but slowed to a trickle at this point. Reddit fucking sucks today, and I say that as a 12 year user who thought it sucked 3 years ago.
Misread and thought you were saying you were 12 at first. You're very mature for your age!
I'd say that's a little more than just "mildly" infuriating.
But reddit had made its bed.
I've joined here because I think Reddit's quality is going to tank after June 30, but I downloaded Jerboa and it doesn't seem to accept my credentials, regardless of instance. I'm confused.
The first local instance I signed up before I fully understood/realized what I was doing was focused on getting together a Chinese or Chinese American instance. Seemingly decent, but I just really didn't want to be barging in on something that wasn't for me. People seem to really be liking Jerboa, but I find it much simpler finding other instances in the web browser. I still have much to learn though.
The first local instance I signed up before I fully understood/realized what I was doing was focused on getting together a Chinese or Chinese American instance.
Sort of unrelated to the general "Hey - I can't seem to log onto the app" enquiry, but I would be interested in helping out to evolve a Chinese instance. I'm not American, but am interested in trying to be a part of the Pan-Asian community.
I believe it was latte.isnot.coffee, but it appears they recently opened up. Or I was just a confused new user and didn't realize what instance the community/post was under. You can search for instances at: https://browse.feddit.de/ In cased you missed it, Beehaw defederated at the start of the recent big Reddit migration, so we won't receive any external post/updates and vise-versa outside of your own instance. If I'm oversimplifying or need correction - anyone correct me!
Beehaw defederated at the start of the recent big Reddit migration
Can I get an ELI3? Haha.
When a host server of a frediverse server defederates, they no longer share/update their info. So right now, kbin (I get kbin.social on my feed and subscribed there) is connected/federated with Lemmy. We can post there; their members can post here. We all receive updates/copies of each other's posts. All of us are in the same conversation. When defederation happens, it's like no longer talking to each other. We could still use the kbin.social page we were subscribed to, but everything new would be "us"/Lemmy only and we wouldn't see Kbins members, and they wouldn't see ours. Or: the virtual information sharing cable is cut, and we only see what was there or is added from our own end. Beehaw cut it's information off from Lemmy due to the rapid increase of users wanting access (from what I've seen).
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Wow, watching the Lemmy user activity skyrocket (signups sans bots, it's still the starting wave of the mass exodus, exponential growth curve at its start) is just amazing.
I never thought I'd side with Disney on anything, but then came Ron DeSantis. I never thought I'd side with Reddit mods on anything, but then came spez.
Yeah, huh. It's weird how that happened. Disney, ruiner of many small companies and destroyer of the purpose of copyright law on a deeply greedy level, goes against a sociopath nazi white nationalist, probably kkk.
Ten years ago, I liked Disney stuff but hated what they've done to the freedom of law and ruining the opportunities of many.
But here we are, post-2016 trump era, the world is way, way worse, and my activist political aunt was right.
She said to me, back then at a family get together after dinner, that electing trump is an extremely scary thing and would be bad.
I asked her what's the worst that could really happen.
She kinda stared back at me, as if to gauge what to say. Then said that he was the type of person that brings all the awful things out from under their rocks, and told me to keep my eyes open and pay attention, because if he got elected, the next 4 years will be the type of history that only happens once in a lifetime.
She was 100% serious, as if she could see the future. But she was just in her 60s, big gay, from DC, and confident and loud. I can still see the the look of dread and sorrow on her face as she said that to me, and I doubt I'll ever forget it.
Power typically begets more power, and the only way to fix it is to forcefully bend it to your will over and over again. I can't believe Disney is where our trust is for civil rights, but, I guess it can always be worse and Disney knows that and is using us for support. It's not great.
Fuck spez.
It's like boomer sociopaths grew old enough in their time, and were like "yeah, ruin everything, yeah yeah". But then millennial sociopaths grew old enough and are now like, "hold my coke..." Can we reign this shit in for the future generations at least? Because it's awful.
Sadly trump is not likily to be once he may be back by end of next year
mildly infuriating is an understatement, this is insane...
We need /c/infuratingasfuck
Reddit is North Korea now... :I
Why is this shared here? It's already on a reddit focused community. Plus why is it on Philippines?
What do you mean? It's shared here because it's mildly infuriating, and how did you make the connection to Philippines?
All of this protesting bs will never work
The only way to make any difference would be to delete your Reddit account and leave the platform
Yet you're here.
does leaving the platform not constitute a kind of protest?
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