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Democratic lawmakers hailed President Joe Biden’s historic decision on Sunday not to seek reelection, praising him as putting his country and his party before himself. Republicans called on him to resign from office, saying that if he could not run for another term, office, then he’s unable to serve as president.

Biden’s announcement came after more than two weeks of Democrats urging him to withdraw from the race. Nearly three dozen lawmakers had publicly called on him to end his reelection bid. Others had voiced concerns privately about what the ramifications would be for down-ballot Democrats if he remained in the race. When the president heeded those concerns, Democrats called it a selfless move.

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[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 203 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who cares what the Republikkkans say?

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago

Putting equal emphasis on the opinions of both sides is what got us in this fuckhole to begin with. No matter how niche a voice, your opinion matters equal on any and all topics including reproductive health and climate mechanics.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 174 points 2 years ago (4 children)

"That 81 year old is way too old for the job, vote for our 78 year old!" is a bold strategy

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That’s the best part. Why is trump even running… he looks so tired.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Because his options literally are win or go to jail

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

His only chance at avoiding prison time for his many, many crimes committed while in office last time necessitate that he become President again, even though it was quite clear in 2016 that he was surprised he actually won and didn't want to do the job.

If he gets elected, all of those active indictments gets swept away on Day 1 and the SCOTUS has already paved the way for him to be "exonerated".

A vote for Trump is a vote for justice denied.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 22 points 2 years ago

Especially when he'll be older in 2028 than Biden is now.

Although I'll wager the job is harder on Biden than it is on Trump, on the grounds that Trump doesn't actually bother to do it. He just played golf and signed shit for other people without looking at it.

[–] huquad@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

What do you mean? That's 30 years of difference? \s

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[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 67 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Republicans were calling for President Elect Biden to resign even while their leader was staging a violent coup to end the Republic.

The fascist GOP can get fucked. What they want should be irrelevant and their very presence opposed.

[–] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From a foreigner, this is undoubtedly true, unless you goal is secretly to have a king.

[–] azimir@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Given our Supreme Court ruling that a US president can't commit crimes, they're not being very secret about their goal of making the US a dictatorship.

[–] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

None of it... Is secret... The trump calls. Even to the fucking election investigator in Georgia!? The paperwork.

It's all there. Any American who supports trump today is either literally special needs level education (and haven't looked at or understood thr tapes) or publicly admitting they would prefer monarchy with trump.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pretty sad when non-Americans seem to understand the severity of this threat better than people here.

[–] ImpressiveEssay@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Most non-americans that finished school do.

[–] VanillaBean@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I hope biden passes a few 'Official Acts' before he heads out.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unless he resigns, he’s still president until January 20, 2025. So we will see; he’s got nothing to lose, AND presidential immunity.

Usually I’d say someone in his position has absolutely nothing to lose, but being he’s such a … typical guy, he won’t do anything and go down in history as a footnote.

[–] Kroxx@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well if Harris is running couldn't any unpopular thing that Biden does potentially be tied to her?

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 15 points 2 years ago

Repeat after me: “I condemn President Biden dropping Clarence Thomas into a dildo shredder, but I respect the supreme court decision of total presidential immunity.”

[–] brianary@startrek.website 31 points 2 years ago

Like sending a few choice SCOTUS judges to gitmo

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

The republicans want Biden to resign so they can immediately attack Harris for simutaneously having no record and attack anything she attempts to accomplish.

[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

If Joe Biden resigned the republicans would say "not enough! You have to commit sepukku on live TV! COWARD!"

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (11 children)

If he had resigned that would have put in Harris as the incumbent and given her a big boost. Do they really want that?

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

They're flinging bad faith criticisms at the wall and seeing what sticks, they haven't thought that far ahead

[–] superkret@feddit.org 12 points 2 years ago

They are currently in the position to force through their pick of a VP.

[–] ganksy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It would give them time to pin a bunch of shit on her and to keep her off the campaign trail.

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[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So Republicans want to make Harris the first woman president asap? How progressive of them.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If she takes over now, and them beats Trump, would that count as her first term or second? Does it have to be a whole term to count?

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 17 points 2 years ago

If Biden were to resign (which he won’t), then she would assume the presidency as kind of zero-ith term; she could run for reelection twice. Two full terms.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For what purpose? Basically the same thing happened in the 1960s with Lyndon B. Johnson. For purposes of not being allowed to be elected more than twice, she would be eligible to run once more because of the text of the 22nd amendment ("and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once"). We are considerably less than two years away from the end of Biden's term.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You know, I completely forget there was an amendment on that. 2 years it is then.

Him stepping down now has no real advantage for the republicans other than causing a minor amount of chaos and time-wasting.

[–] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Mike Johnson moves one heartbeat closer to the Whitehouse in this hypothetical. And the remaining heartbeat would be on tour campaigning, which we've seen can expose someone to high velocity lead poisoning. Plus, Kamala would have to oversee an unplanned administration turnover, taking time and energy away from her campaigning efforts. It's all painfully obvious why they want this and none of it has to do with the good of the country

[–] supercriticalcheese@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Speaker Mike Johnson is not fit to be a speaker, so there who cares ?

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

Yeah I bet the want him to resign. Untethered by reelection he might actually do something they don’t like.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can't satisfy it Republicans so don't bother trying. Well, unless you use Grindr during the RNC. Then you can probably satisfy Republicans.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago

You couldn't pay me enough to fuck someone who gets on stage and tells everyone that their neighbors and people like me shouldn't exist.

You have to be nicer and more friendly than that.

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If Biden where to step down now, and Harris takes over till elections. Does that count as her first term?

It would allow her to campaign as incumbent. Although not having the office does mean more time.

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe you can still run for two full terms if you were president for less than two years. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago

You are correct

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No. Interm president does not count toward elected presidential terms afaik

[–] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Two years is the limit. You can be president for up to 10 years. 2 filing out the previous term and 8 being elected to the office twice.

[–] Ioughttamow@kbin.run 5 points 2 years ago

I believe it can, but with the time left it would not

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