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Every Big Name Urging Biden To Drop Out: First Major Union Joins 34 Democrats In Congress (www.forbes.com)
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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Teamsters?

Brb

Edit: It wasn't a major union; it was the Local 3000 chapter of the United Food and Commercial Workers.

I'm tired, boss. I wanted to dig up a story about the massive list of unions that are specifically still supporting Biden, citing as their reason the wide support he has because their members know and care what he did for them even if the media doesn’t, and saying sensible things like, Harris is fine but IDK if she can win the election, but I have not the energy and what’s the point of citing the story anyway. I can already feel the tide of low effort comments that would ensue in response.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Where is all this supposed "pro-union" stuff from biden? He'd better have done a fucking lot since he publicly fucked over rail workers and only gave them a tiny bit of the sick leave they demanded. Or are you just gonna cite how he's working to expand our oil industry and the jobs that created?

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sure

So one of Biden’s FIRST actions in office was to fire the piece of shit that Trump put in charge of the NLRB. He literally did it on his first day, short cutting the normal procedure for it, which actually caused a little bit of a fight, and then put in a whole bunch of actually pro-labor people. They’ve been backstopping all these pretty remarkable union gains that have been happening the last few years.

The Teamsters, for whatever stupid/corrupt reason, are pretty much the only union that hasn’t come out swinging hard for Biden in the election, because unlike the media they are aware of how much things have been changing for them in the last few years and want it to continue instead of Trump putting Margaret Thatcher in charge of the NLRB of whatever the fuck he wants to do instead.

Oh, and also he broke a rail strike that would have caused some inflation (which I know the media and the people on Lemmy would have been super understanding of the full context of and wouldn’t have caused any problems), and then once no one was paying attention anymore, his administration kept working the issue and got the workers the sick days they were striking for in the first place. So you I guess you do have a point that he’s horrible. I take it all back.

I actually do think an American president should go further than that -- if the rail workers want to strike, then god bless 'em, and if the economy suffers then it should have treated its workers like humans and can go on suffering until that starts happening. But the idea that Biden is somehow a downward departure from the norm for US presidents or that he didn't go to bat for unions in pretty much every other one of the 99% of things that happened during his term is absurd.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's cool that he got rid of that piece of shit trump appointee, but he hasn't done anything else for unions since.

Of course the teamsters not supporting him is because of corruption, it's not like he's blatantly anti-union in speech and in action or anything. Why doesn't everyone else also hate him? That's the real question.

They got a small portion of the sick leave they asked for. Quietly. Months after Biden very publicly shut down the strike. This is not a Biden w, no matter how hard you try to sell it as one.

Is there anything else I should know about? I didn't know about the first bit, that's pretty neat ig, but it doesn't change the fact that Biden being "pro-union" is a blatant lie. It's like saying the IDF is the most moral military, literally anyone not completely indoctrinated by liberal propaganda is gonna see right through that and call bs on it. Being only slightly shitty to one union does not make him pro union, unless you're telling me every other president has union members regularly executed and Biden is just relatively pro-union compared to that

If he's done more than one good thing for unions, I'd love to hear it. Make sure you put as much snark in there as possible, and call me a trump supporter and a troll for not 100% sharing your opinions :3

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

it's not like he's blatantly anti-union in speech and in action or anything. Why doesn't everyone else also hate him? That's the real question.

It is, indeed. What do you think is the answer? Why so many unions are coming out to go to bat for him?

Is there anything else I should know about?

Here’s a pretty good list. It’s fair; the ones I sent were a little short on specific details.

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for the list, there's cool stuff on there I didn't know about :3 it also reminded me of non-compete agreements getting nuked recently, that's another very cool thing. Most of it seems to just be undoing stuff trump did, but that + other good things is nice in my book.

Sorry for being a sarcastic asshole about this. Most biden supporters I've seen don't know much pro-labor stuff he's done other than spinning the rail strike into a good thing and crying bad faith if you disagree, I shouldn't have assumed you were the same way

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Ha. All good, glad to be of service

[–] perviouslyiner@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You think the first president ever to visit a picket line won't get union votes?

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we're all waiting for your reply to that well-written response

don't forget to thank them for informing you where other media seemingly failed. you could also apologize for making your angry, disrespectful comment in response to theirs when it didn't need to be

[–] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't bother trying to respect liberals, you think I'm a Nazi bc I acknowledge that Israel is committing genocide, or that Biden has more than earned every bit of hate he's gotten from minorities. You have to show respect to deserve it, and you're too busy showing that respect to Biden for helping carry out your genocide in Gaza, or to Trump for being stunning and brave about getting shot at

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

What in the world? Lol. Is it all assumptions with you?

Tbh, I just thought you were being a dick. Didn't realize you were a trump supporter, or whatever but I guess it tracks