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[–] Denvil@lemmy.one 121 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Shot an unpopular politician"

Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?

(Yes ik Trump)

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm guessing it's closer to 190 nations. (Trump, not the assassin)

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[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I mean, define "popular politician" / " unpopular politician." Does the fact that the media constantly shoves all these yahoos in our faces make these political figures popular? Unpopular? It's all corrupt and I hate every mention of ANY politician's names, while some people choose politicians to cheer for like it's a fekkin sports team.

[–] botorfj@lemdro.id 85 points 2 years ago (5 children)

did I really learn about an assassination attempt thru lemmy

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 119 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Isn’t that the point of Lemmy? So you don’t have to rawdog news?

[–] botorfj@lemdro.id 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yeah i suppose that’s better

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[–] supertrucker@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

Oh, you want your news filtered, but you will happily rawdog Becky who may or may not have Clamidia

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[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 83 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same, felt weird.

Beyond that, I learned about it via a particularly cold meme.

[–] HaleHirsute 25 points 2 years ago

I was glad to see that meme to remember the anecdote. Valuable info in these times.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

For me it was 4chan's technology board /g/ of all places

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

I learned through KnowYourMeme.

[–] anachronist@midwest.social 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was a time when America could reliably produce assassins who could kill both presidential candidates and even sitting presidents. What the he'll happened? Deindustralization? Too much porn and video games?

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Radicalization of ideologies is my bet. Radicals on both sides scream that the other side is evil which creates something broken in the easily influenced. Hell there's even some radicals that believe that Trump needed to be killed to stop him. And thanks to this person, Trumps side is only bolstered.

I'm sure the next thing we will see is finger pointing. However whoever is going to read this and wants to hear some wisdom from a fellow random internet stranger; let this guy stand alone. Do not blame the other side or accuse them of wild theories or accusations. If you do go radical, the situation is only going to get worse

[–] refalo@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why can't we meet in the middle and find a compromise?

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[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think you'll see plenty of attempts after this, some inspired by it and others in retaliation. Fun times for the US

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Secret service will step up their security after this, so another attempt as close as this is unlikely

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Failed attempts are enough to escalate things. And with enough attempts, some especially against smaller targets might succeed. It's gonna get intetesting

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’m pretty sure Secret Service is well aware of this, so they will escalate their security accordingly.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The same Secret Service who left one of the only buildings in the area unsecured? Who when told there was a shooter by the crowd, ignored them? Making a lot of assumptions about competency here when that's already directly in question.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 points 2 years ago

Damn, did they hire the Secret Service from Uvalde or something?

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

I don't doubt that, I'm sure they're doing their best

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Umm... Shouldn't the first attempt have been unlikely? This literally proves Secret Service isn't as competent as you believe.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You are all talking about Abe's assassination, but forgetting this happened

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That act weakened the Japanese Socialist party (center-left), emboldened the far-right, caused copycats and ensured the current party stayed in power for most of the twentieth century.

That's not to say that Asanuma was a scummy maoist and had forced his party to support the terrible war in Asia.

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've honestly been really surprised that this was the only 'real' assassination attempt in recent memory. I was surprised that no one went after Obama, nor Trump after him and Biden after him. The rage was so high, yet it's only now that anyone from either side makes a real attempt.

[–] Thomrade@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm just making a guess here, but there could have been more attempts that were nippedl in the bud early enough that we have never heard of them, because the would-be assaains were sloppier and got caught.

[–] randy@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots#Assassination_attempts_and_plots

You're correct. You'll notice every president in recent history has multiple assassination attempts listed. The bulk of them don't go very far.

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[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Hierarchy tends to prevent violence by providing an authority to appeal to. So long as there is some process people can take, in hope of redress, they will choose that instead of just stabbing a motherfucker. This applies to interpersonal conflict with your neighbor, or mass conflict between religious groups, indeed everybody seeing a fat old baby commit high crimes on national television. Even if you feel the odds are abysmal, that can be enough to stop you from grabbing your pitchfork with intent to use it.

Belief in those systems is a finite resource.

[–] Gigagoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the ö's make this even more amusing, as i can't be sure it was an accidental dick-up instead of a nordic memelord giggling themself to sleep.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The long o (oe or ö) is a sound present in north European languages, and also in many Asian languages, including Japanese.

[–] Gigagoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

am Finnish, so i responded as such. for Japanese, however, you'd use ō instead. that is not an ö. ou is also acceptable.

[–] emergencyfood@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

You're right, it should be ou here, not oe.

[–] Arello@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Long o in Finnish is oo, ö is pronounced different and could also be pronounced as long öö.

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[–] RickAstleyfounddead@lemy.lol 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

The guy that killed Shinzo Abe.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm not so sure Shinzo Abe was popular.

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