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[help][answered] Is pirated tutorials forbidden here ? (lemmy.sdf.org)
submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Diurnambule@lemmy.sdf.org to c/steamdeck@sopuli.xyz
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Hello,

Edit thank to PriorPtoject I discovered the modlog : https://sopuli.xyz/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost&userId=1683334

I recently posted a tutorial to pirate on steamdeck which was removed.

I checked th rule and it doesn't appear to be forbidden are the rules out of date or did I miss a rule ?

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[–] timi@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Tutorials on how to use and install the legal side of emulators are allowed, it’s when you encroach on copyright that things become a problem. Piracy is not allowed.

Do not post links to sources of copyrighted materials.

Pictures of your Deck running software never published to PC are questionable. My biggest problem with /r/steamdeck is how it made me feel like I joined a bad faith community by buying the device.

There are a handful of moderators and we discuss as a group before we take action. I am not the only voice, so you may opt to wait for others to comment.

[–] Diurnambule@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks for the reply.

I didn't link to anything, maybe it is because I mentioned two repackers.

I explained how to combine tools included in the deck (more precisely in package manager ) to be able to get pirated games.

But I guess that was to close of the border.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I think it's important for posters to see from the side of mods. I'm not a mod here and speaking out of my butt so please take everything with a grain of salt.

I am a big advocate of hacking and doing slightly non-acceptable things out of curiosity.

But I'm also not interested in dealing with legal threats or being pulled into weird scenarios all because one person has a strong opinion about right & wrong.

When I face that issue, I instead encourage the poster/author to instead create a separate Convo somewhere else that is outside of the responsibility of the mod team. Like, I support your actions but I'm not going to stress over it. Because at the end of the day, I'm just trying to provide a space for the majority and have fun with the convos.

[–] Diurnambule@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hello, I can understand that. That why I ask for the reason to be able to understand since removing a post is not communicating.

[–] PriorProject@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you aware of the modlog? Post removals generally do have an explanation. There's a handy one in your case:

Discussion on how to pirate games is not allowed. We'll update the rules to be more transparent about this.

https://sopuli.xyz/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost&userId=1683334

[–] Diurnambule@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago

Ho no I wasn't aware. Thanks. I got my answer.

[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's actually kind of funny that emulators, which explicitly violate copyright law in the US as a circumvention measure prohibited by the DMCA as well as infringing for any rom created after the 1920s (ie. all of them) which have not been placed into the public domain, are perfectly fine here because that doesn't "feel" like piracy since the games are not generating revenue.

Anyway, you're almost certainly looking for !steamdeckpirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com instead of this community. I didn't even know that community existed until yesterday with the kerfuffle over lemmy.world defederating from dbzer0.com. Streisand effect-ish in a way. Best of luck, and keep a keen eye out for the EIC.

[–] Diurnambule@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I guess they have to draw a line somewhere.

Yeah I posted my tuto in !steamdeckpirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com already.

That look like a sweet spot to start a pirate community for SteamDeck.

Seem a little empty now though

[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It does seem fairly empty at the moment. TBH, I don't have enough time to play the games I've paid for (or gotten from Epic), but it's interesting that it's out there.

edit: there is about twice the unfederated content on the dbzer0 server compared to what is here on Sopuli (as of this morning) if that matters.

[–] Diurnambule@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah lemmy.world did a great publicity for piracy communities. We should thank them.

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think they just blocked !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com rather than defederating completely.

[–] Overzeetop@sopuli.xyz -2 points 2 years ago

Yes - good correction, thank you.