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There is nothing that I find more pathetic than hating young people.

It's our responsibility to help the next generation have a damn future, not complain at them until they become loyal servents.

People act like the kids owe them something. No it's the other way around, we owe them.

We have an ass backwards society where kids are expected to raise themselves and serve adults. It's insane.

I can't count how many times I've been out somewhere and there is some parent screeching at their child like a bratty teenager. Like holy shit, how did we get to the point where parents are less mature than their kids? It's pathetic.

And then people complain that kids show no respect and youth crime is up. Yeah, no shit, who would respect a society of selfish brats? You act like a prick in front of your kids and now they're pricks too. No shit. Instead of setting an example and being decent human beings we act like screeching tyrants and expect them to grow up to respect us and society? What a joke.

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[–] Grebgreb@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen my nephew get berated and mocked for "ipad withdrawal" by his parents even though he's not the one that got it for himself and he didn't decide to move to a suburbs where the only outside activity is listening to lawn equipment.

[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

parents deeply addicted to candy crush knock off

[–] CommunistBear@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

I want young people to have incomprehensible slang that I don't understand. I want young people to develop music and art that I don't understand and isn't for me. I want young people to act silly and goofy and cringe. I want young people to make me question my ideals and morals.

If I ever get to a point where I'm just complaining about young people for no real reason take me out behind the shed and shoot me

[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

youth crime is up.

Youth crime is pretty universally down from its peak in the late 20th century.

Kids are having sex later, smoking less, taking less drugs, etc.

Poor blighters

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

gen z uses most drugs less, but takes more weed/shrooms than any other gen. theres a study that 70% of us prefer weed over alcohol, which imo is a good thing

[–] FearsomeJoeandmac@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

I think millennial take the cake for opiate addiction. I can't tell you how many dudes I know my age (self included) who've struggled with painkillers or heroin

[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure that's true?

Prevalence rate (%) of current marijuana use among US residents 12 to 25 years of age during 1979–2016, overall and stratified by gender. Derived from data from the 1979–2016 National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH)

From here (I would expect it to trend up since 2016)

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

12 to 25 in 2016

well that's measuring mostly millennials and zillennials. i'm middle-gen-z and just turned 12 that year. i also imagine we start later than other gens, most people i know didn't start til 17-19

i was looking at this, which admittedly didn't track data before 1988, but it shows a pretty big increase from 2016-2021 (i figure it's even higher in the last three years). also shows daily usage nearly doubled over ten years:

Marijuana and hallucinogen use among young adults reached all-time high in 2021

also, having it occasionally isn't the same as regularly using it and preferring it over alcohol. i know a lot of boomer hippie types were stoners, but is there any evidence they actually used weed more than us? maybe they WERE getting constantly crossfaded on everything, idk, but in college today weed's often the main social/hangout substance, not just something you do on a hike or a concert now and then

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Fuck the bipartisan war on drugs

dang I really lived my life ahead of the curve

[–] buh@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

their haircuts are stupid but so were ours so they get a pass

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

rat tails and mullets were supposed to die stalin-stressed

[–] spacecadet@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

I kind of like all the stupid hair cuts tbh

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i hate my peers is that okay

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Equality is hating everyone

[–] FearsomeJoeandmac@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

dirt owl is the site's patron saint

[–] spacecadet@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

The specific intersection of youth and privilege is pretty annoying, but that's not an entire generational thing. As a USian, most people in general seem to be self-centered and not considerate, age has nothing to do with it.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I exclusively hate older generations.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Seriously, those jerks did nothing but drop all thier cash on BS and be misogynist. Then have the gall to blame me. F them. They could have built something but decided to leave empire of ruins for us to clean up.

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

hey look i hated my parents' generation, i hated my generation, i'm not gonna let up for this new generation just because they're kids

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

but really I honestly don't get this big focus on the difference between generations. Maybe it's because I sort of straddle the line between millennial and gen z and have good friends in both camps, but gen z is not really doing that much that's new. Even gen alpha and their "skibidi toilet" that everyone is suddenly up in arms about is not really that different from the things that came before. Most of the characteristics of these generations that people are focusing have been around for a long, long time. Like three-quarters of their slang (which is really just Black slang) I've been using since at least 2010. You can even hear a good deal of "gen z slang" in old 90s hip-hop. And nearly all of their music and shit I can hear the beginnings of in all the shit that I used to listen to. Anime, fandom, cosplay, none of this stuff is new. Maybe because it's all more mainstream now, I don't know. But people treat gen z as this radical departure from some imagined norm, but if you've been paying attention for the last decade and a half it's not really new.

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the generation thing is libshit, and genz is about as progressive as the hippies were.

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

im an xer, and I support this message

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I love my gen X comrades too. If you grew up during the hell that was the 80s and managed to still come out a commie, you're all right in my book

[–] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

We love our younger comrades, don’t we folks?

[–] TawnyFroggy@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

The only way I'm going to hate younger generations is if they move right politically.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago

Everytime I hear someone complain about "kids these days" I pull this out from Socrates Guess it's been a problem for 2500 years. Or I dk maybe it's BS.

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority, they show disrespect to their elders.... They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and are tyrants over their teachers."

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I agree. And if you're not recruiting younger generations into your org what are you even doing?

[–] Gorb@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

The youth provide fresh new meme content for me how could I hate them?

All old people know is drive bad, block they supermarket isle, whine about the worlds smallest and most irrelevant problem for 5000 hours and be nosey af

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I want to be like Yoshiyuki Tomino and have an ever growing hatred for the older generations that gets stronger as I age.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I sincerely apologise that my last part turned into this. I was more going for "what stuff are the younger generations doing that your old brain can't fathom", but then some people like to blame the wrong groups.

[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i only wish the kids would start making good music

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they really need to discover electric guitars. [non country] guitar music was the glue of our society and now that guitars are largely irrelevant in popular music, everything has gone to shit. it's no coincidence. ZOOMERS: PICK UP A STRAT AND START CHUGGA-ING

[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nah i can do without the guitars

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

you're part of the PROBLEM

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just got to look harder. What you like may not be main stream anymore but for example people make 80's style music still. I dk even know what Tennis style is but I thought it was decades past. Still good in my book.

[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't want 80s style music, I want 2024 music. And believe me it's not like I'm not looking

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Ah gotcha. I have a few youtuber channels I follow to find different kinds of music. Sometimes it's just remix versions of popular songs. For example I don't like Billie bad guy song very much but the T-Mass version is my jamb. Music is very subjective. Best of luck.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

generations are bullshit but there is a reason to be angry at older people especially those 20 or more years your elder because hey, they were around and had an opportunity to make this shit better and they didnt. they failed

that said im in my forties and any shade thrown my way by this same logic is more than fair. i certainly didnt do everything i could to make things better and i do feel some guilt about it. the kids deserve better and thats the truth

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the 1% vs the workingclass, not generation vs generation

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I've managed to make it to 45 without developing any "dang kids these days" brainworms, so at this point I don't really think it'll happen at all.

The kids are alright