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[–] hi_its_me@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

Honest question… I get that Chrome has a bunch questionable privacy practices that sends data back to Google, but do the chromium based browsers do that as well? My understanding is that Chromium is just the rendering engine. How is it bad?

Also, if Google implements their bullshit DRM features, I wonder if the derivative browsers will be able to disable it. I believe I saw that Brave said they won’t use it.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 9 points 2 years ago

Because Google controls the Chromium source.

And when they control the vast majority of browser share (already true):

They add non-standard features, some websites use these features which locks out browsers that follow the standards.

Sure, you could maintain a Chromium fork that strips all the "bad" stuff. But that's a lot of dev time and money.... and it only gets worse with time as they add more. And why go through all the trouble to make your user's experience worse?

And now Google de-facto controls web development standards.

The more users we can get off Chromium the better. Right now it's literally just Firefox and Safari that are holding out.

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[–] WatchMySixWillYa@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

From this band, I get more and more in love with Vivaldi, especially their Workspaces feature.

[–] Xyz 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I tried FF the other day instead of Vivaldi and I was like, no scroll wheel to switch tabs? No quick commands? No workspaces? Ugh I am prepared to keep using a chromium engine rather than give up all the "power user" features. It's just sooo good.

Been using gestures for so long I constantly catch myself using them in other apps where it doesn't work and getting frustrated at myself.

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[–] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It was a sad day when Opera dropped presto.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

We wanted HTML as complex as Adobe Flash. When we got it, the standard became so complex no way smaller players that didn't dedicate massive resources to keeping up could possibly keep up.

There was just no way to keep presto up to date with the ever evolving web without a massive new source of income for Opera.

[–] EqMinMax@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

epiphany and falkon goes away...

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[–] anarchoplayworker@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also there’s now a DuckDuckGo browser!

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Which uses the OS web view. So on macOS it’s the safari engine.

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