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[–] alilbee@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Bible takes place almost entirely in the middle east and I would guess this guy's mental reel of it looks like an Imagine Dragons concert.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I have seen multiple images like this and I always like them:

[–] son_named_bort@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not if you ask the Mormons.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's also a Christian sect in Japan that claim that Jesus came to Japan.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesus was the original weeb

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 20 points 1 year ago

Weebus Jeebus.

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[–] Potatisen@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Hey man, don't call them that. Just because they believe some fairytale doesn't make them morons.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Although... does even the Book of Mormon mention Australia?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That can't be right. The Garden of Eden is in Daviess County, Missouri

[–] Canadian_anarchist@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

The Garden of Eden was a strip club in the city I grew up in.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My headcanon is that the Old Testament was a god specifically of the Jews and some upstart god took over (possibly after murdering him) in the New Testament days and then proceeded to spread his influence to non-jewish people while aggressively eliminating any opposition. Wherease in the old days people believed in various gods, this one started of campaign of montheism, depriving the rest of them of faith and eliminating them one by one. Nowadays he's kicking and screaming because the rise of atheism in many parts of the world which used to be his strongold is depriving him of energy and thus he finally faces annihilation.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh there is no question that Yaweh was originally just a local god. Jews would have recognized other gods too, just not as their one true god.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Indeed. The headcanon part is the whole hijacking part.

Truth be told, it makes perfect sense for religions as a whole following some type of evolutionary path and that a religion that actively tries to eliminate other faith would be one to eventually gain dominance. I'm more surprised that it seems to have happened fairly late and perhaps just once? There's probably others similar to the judeo-christian tradition that ended up falling short of their conquest, but still.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

The Old Testament doesn't even get to proper Jews until Genesis 32:22-31 when Jacob wrestles an angel to win God's eternal blessing for his offspring.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That's not headcanon, that's canon canon. The first bit anyway.

If I was to describe Abrahamic religions to pre-Abrahamic polytheist societies, I'd tell about a powerful, jealous god from the desert that murdered the other gods and took command of most of the world.

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You headcanon sounds like gnosticism

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[–] Jilanico@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Are mecca and medina even in that circle? Yemen definitely isn't. Image is definitely false.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There is some debate over where Mecca is currently situated and where it may have been located historically.

I don't normally like to deny the credibility of websites I know nothing about, however

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Maybe it never existed, and it was just the friends we mecca-long the way.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like someone needs to reread their book of Mormon.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is why hard core 'Christians' (and I use that term loosely) drive me bonkers.

[–] ogeist@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Of course, Jesus was born in Bethlehem... Pennsylvania.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

You don't need to use the term loosely. All Christians are in the same boat. Some might be on one side of the boat or another. The people at the bow may hate the people at the stern, and they might tell you that they are on your side. But while they might be closer to you than the stern, they're still in their boat and you're not.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a 'no true Scotsman' fallacy and a lot of people make it in order to defend the part of the religious group they like. If you worship Christ, you're a Christian. That's what the word means. It doesn't matter if the Christ you worship has no resemblance to the Christ in the Bible since both of them are fictions even if there was a "real" Jesus in the first century.

I don't even understand it. If you believe there are good Christians, just call them good Christians and the others bad Christians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

ACAB. A multi-faceted acronym!

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[–] Senseless@feddit.org 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like you can exchange "Christians" with "religious fundamentalists"

[–] Veraxus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Sure, but in the western world, that Venn diagram is basically a circle.

[–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

For real. Every religious group has its crazies.

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[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 48 points 1 year ago

It’s amazing that people STILL can’t recognize a troll when they see one.

[–] StaySquared@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

lol partially naked woman for the world to see talking about the Bible.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I like hi ow they know where the wheel was invented when nobody really does. And it was probably invented multiple times independently of each other. But nobody knows since it was so long ago.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was. There's at least some evidence that the Inca invented the wheel independently, but its application was largely limited to children's toys IIRC.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wheels are generally only an improvement over carrying stuff (including with pack animals) when you need to move across fairly flat and solid surfaces. The mountains of Peru, being extremely not flat, turned out to be a poor environment for early wheels (slight error here, see FlyingSquid below)

Same reason West Africa adopted and then abandoned the wheel. Turns out that in a lot of the environments there, camels did the job better once we figured out how to domesticate them

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What I think is interesting is that those civilizations also didn't develop pottery wheels mill wheels, which makes me wonder if the wheel as transport is necessary to develop those technologies.

Also interesting to me is that the wheelbarrow was invented thousands of years after the wheel. You do need to invent an axle for a wheelbarrow to exist, but you would still think they would have been obvious technology. Nope, it was invented in first century BCE China.

That said, the person you replied to was slightly off. It wasn't the Incas, it was Mesoamericans. People like the Mayans. You were still correct though, it had no utility as transport in a jungle environment either.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 1 year ago

Ahh thank you, I actually also misremembered which bit of the Americas that story was from. I think I had the Inca road network in mind.

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

To say that it was invented in such place and time only means that we have evidence that a wheel was invented in that place and time. It doesn't mean that it wasn't invented elsewhere independently.

[–] riskable@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

Depends on your definition of "wheel". For example, any ancient perfectly round pottery was made using a pottery wheel (primitive or not). Otherwise, how would you do it?

That's how we know the ancient Sumerians were using pottery wheels as early as 3250 BCE (because we found perfectly round pottery that's that old):

https://www.colorado.edu/classics/2018/06/15/potters-wheel#:~:text=The%20potter's%20wheel%20is%20an,(2).

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[–] manucode 9 points 1 year ago

IIRC the bible tells us that Abraham came from Mesopotamia. I guess he must have used a sleigh or something to transport his stuff to Canaan.

[–] Glowstick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I can't figure out the comment threading here. Who is responding to who? And which comment are we agreeing with here at lemmy and which are we deriding?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

People are in generally only responding to the OP, but the person who posted it in the bad archaeology group split it up into like 10 images and that was the only way I could easily assemble them. They just sort of line up by coincidence.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Velva Teen Hunger Force

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 5 points 1 year ago

The one barely covering her breasts talking about the Bible. Apropos.

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