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...with Apple and Microsoft, Mutahar's turn to take a look at "Web Environment Integrity"

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[–] PipedLinkBot@feddit.rocks 26 points 2 years ago

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I have finally made the full conversion away from Google. Email, browser, search all out of their hands. The one that took the longest to happen was the browser. Firefox finally is working great for me now.

[–] skomposzczet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Email is tough one for me. Any recommendations? I tried Proton but their mobile app is (was?) disaster, and only limited to one logged in account at once which is a deal breaker for me.

[–] jsnc@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

Posteo or Runbox are good libre options. You have to rent however

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

zoho mail is what I use.

[–] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

apple might oppose this to some point, they're often not in line with google.

[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Apple only opposes Google when new browser capabilites like PWAs, Bluetooth API, NFC API,... might be a threat to the Appstore monopoly on iOS.

I think they are very much onboard with this since it you could potentially make live hell for Hackintosh and Jailbreak users.

[–] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

i wouldn't be so sure about it. apple strongarmed google with jpgxl support and the european union pryed open their eco system, at least for eu citizens. apple currently positioning themselves on the side of privacy advocates would lose this standing (and many customers who switched to iphone because of it). i know, they could sugarcoat this, but i have a little hope left that they will draw a line on at least the most user hostile stuff.

[–] Sjoerd1993@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Honestly my hope is still that the EU intervenes, which I consider to be around 50% given they’re a generally a bit of a mixed bag when it comes to regulations.

When Apple becomes my last hope, I’ll know times are bad. Having said that, it’s one of the parties that may actually oppose. The other big guy that may have some power in this, Microsoft, is probably more likely to adapt this catastrophe of an idea.

[–] glockenspiel@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Apple already shipped attestation. It's in Safari in both desktop and mobile. Unfortunately. It's just going to take a couple big players to make this a blight everywhere. Netflix implementing this might do it. Google's main sites would work.

[–] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

the EU can be really schizo when it comes to stuff like that, that's true. i don't trust them. and apple as a last hope ... well, maybe when it comes to big tech. can't think of anything better within the FAANG pantheon.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apple loves control; the only reason I can think of that would make them oppose Google's Web Integrity proposal is that they don't think it goes far enough.

[–] thedrivingcrooner@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Or they'll come out with their own and try to be the dominant WEI code.

[–] elgordio@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] mishimaenjoyer@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

welp, i guess it's over.

[–] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

I think they already implemented this onto Safari