If they want it I'm for it.
this post was submitted on 21 Jun 2024
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California has never talked about succession. Texas on the other hand...
Check again. Rural California has been gnashing their teeth trying to secede like crazy for years now. Wanting very badly to join the white supremacist in Idaho and Eastern Oregon. There's a lot of russian-backed astro Turf in it. But there is a real sentiment among the uneducated bigots.
Isn't that California seceding from California?
While I'm sure many of them would like to stay in the union and continue to Leach off everyone else's resources. Constitutionally they can't. So it's ultimately the same thing as texas. Who only believe they have the ability to do so on a technicality they don't actually have.
I don't think the constitution says a portion of a state can't vote to make their own state or join another. It's how West Virginia was created after all. Though whether the other states recognize it as part of the union is up for debate.
Initially no. It is important to note that their statehood happened just as a the civil war was. And that post Civil War language was put in place to clarify that this was not an option going forward. Though I am not a lawyer myself. I've seen a number of lawyers actually versed in the topic discussing this.
Believe me I would love it if our state spanning metropolitan area could secede from the red States it's located in. Because we really don't get representation at the state level. That's reserved for fascists. But it's not an option that's on the table.
Who is "they"?
This reads like a muck-raking post to me.
At a guess?
The inbred rednecks up in the hills that soak up all the water for almonds and other crops that have no business being grown in a desert.
(This is, for the record, in distinction to most the rednecks that suck up all the water… these ones are just “extra”, if you understand.)
It's a bullshit meme of an idea for traitors who want to fuck around and forget about the part where they will eventually find out.
Say goodbye to your lettuce supplies
And 15% of your gdp lol
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2024/04/16/california-remains-the-worlds-5th-largest-economy/
If any given state could make a go of it on their own it's CA. Take that away from the USA and there would be some major shifts in the world economic policy. Why anyone would suggest such is a far fetched idea though.
As I said elsewhere, don't threaten us with a good time. We'd be fine. The rest of the US would be fucked.
Eh, don't inflate yourself that much. CA is important but it's still dwarfed by the country as a whole. Losing somewhere around 10% of the GDP and population would suck, but it's not the solitary pillar holding things up either.
More like 15% of GDP hah
I think the US is precarious enough that the loss of CA would make the US economy unrecoverable. I think the East Coast would also immediately secede, since without CA the country is in a state of permanent Republican rule. Chicago and Detroit would probably petition to join Canada. I think loss of California would be a blow the US could not recover from as a nation.
Literally every other state in the union would have to approve it, and the odds of that happening are next to zero
We might as well discuss how I feel about a beautiful woman materializing next to me and asking for an ice cream cone for a nice date, we'd be talking about roughly the same odds of occurrence.
Considering how everyone here is predicting horrendous things if Trump wins, I'm surprised seccession isn't a more popular idea amongst the Californians here.
We're simultaneously being told that Trump is going to introduce death camps to the USA, but also that no one would want to leave the USA because that's crazy talk.