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[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 222 points 2 years ago (7 children)

They work in tech, promotions are achieved by moving employers. Internal mobility is always terrible in tech companies.

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 89 points 2 years ago

Very much this. I have never switched employers and not received a sizable salary bump in the process. This isn't quite "don't threaten me with a good time" territory, but it's not far removed from it.

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup. It's the same fucked-up psychology corps use for their customers. Like running ads for super discounts for new customers. Existing customers that have never missed a payment? Fuck-em. Instead of giving 1% "thank you" for good customers, corps would rather lose the good customers and pay a premium to find new ones.

So it goes.

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[–] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Yuuuup lowest pay bump I have gotten was 10k highest was over 50k with the potential of a bonus. I got low balled for a long years and am now like pay me. Wish I would have seen/known my worth long ago before getting taken advantage of

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 191 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Dell announced a new return-to-office initiative earlier this year. In the new plan, workers had to classify themselves as remote or hybrid.

Those who classified themselves as hybrid are subject to a tracking system that ensures they are in a physical office 39 days a quarter, which works out to close to three days per work week.

Alternatively, by classifying themselves as remote, workers agree they can no longer be promoted or hired into new roles within the company.

Holy corporate oppression, Batman! That's a shitty deal no matter which option you choose.

I'm glad they've got themselves into a sticky situation.

Also, this observation was funny (in a sad way):

One person said they'd spoken with colleagues who had chosen to go hybrid, and those colleagues reported doing work in mostly empty offices punctuated with video calls with people who were in other mostly empty offices.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 90 points 2 years ago

One major downside of hybrid working really is that if you are having a meeting where even a single person is not there, then the entire meeting may as well be a video call. If you are on a video call, then why do you need to be in the office for it?

At my job we work with physical objects, so being in office is a requirement at least part of the time, but if I'm just going to be in meetings for most of the day, there is no way I'm going into the office just to sit on video calls all day.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 134 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

This would be a handy way to get rid of half your staff, but the people you chase away are usually the ones you want to keep. As per the Dead-Sea Effect, the ones who will leave are the ones who generally are more able to, who will be your most employable people, and thus your most talented. Usually.

Making work suck, and letting the best half of the staff bail, seems like stupid and a game show.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I read somewhere that convincing people to quit was party of some companies' plan when demanding return to office, but as you pointed out, they probably lost their top 10% or more in the quality workers group. So do that introvert parasites can have their "corporate culture" (or more critically, justify leading that bigass office building).

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[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 92 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And Dell said “Great, thanks, saved us a ton on severance packages and allowed us to replace our high paid tenured employees with hungry graduates who are prepared to work themselves to death for peanuts”

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

who are prepared to work themselves to death for peanuts

...while having no idea what they are doing

[–] plantedworld@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's not this quarter's problem, silly!

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Yeah that's the next CEOs problem.

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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Anyone want to start a company. Work from home. We'll split profits among ourselves. We can. Build blackjack lottery machines and webhookers

[–] waffelhaus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I will start developing the webhookers!

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[–] Clent@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] mPony@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

we should fucking hope. Might catch on

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lolbruh. Go ahead and tell me to go to the office 5 days. I’ll peace the fuck out.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I peaced out at 2. Manager was a bit of a prick, and the office was bright, hot, cramped, loud, and had no visual or audio privacy.

No fucking thanks.

Found a job thanks to my peers and it's a little more pay and 100% remote as per the union contract. Wheeee. Work anywhere in the country.

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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If this country cared about the environment or workers' safety, they'd fine companies who make employees work in the office/on site when they could work from home instead.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Imagine how many people die every year commuting to jobs they could have done from home

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[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)

As intended. A Layoff by any other name...

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

That's consistent with my office, plus a hiring freeze so nobody new coming in.

Fortunately, for me, my cardiologist told them to pound sand. Working from home now since 2018.

[–] lickmygiggle@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

what a stupid hill to die on

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