Notice how he does something terrible and then does something that looks like it balances the terrible out, but in reality, it's just terrible business as usual?
Look at the Gaza pier
Not a novel, or interesting observation I guess.
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I read the article and it was shit. There are two "programs". Are they executive orders? It seems that they are.
Biden will unveil the policies at a celebration at the White House to mark the 12-year anniversary of another executive action...
If so and Trump wins - can he simply kill the orders?
Biden will allow undocumented spouses to apply for legal residency without having to leave the United States, a major relief for those who have jobs and are raising young children and worry that there is no guarantee they will be allowed back into the country.
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Biden is also expected to announce a work-visa program for current enrollees in Obama’s 2012 program, known as Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, and others who were shut out of the program after the Trump administration called it an illegal amnesty and tried to terminate it in 2017.
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Details for both programs are still being worked out and are expected to be made public over the summer, officials said.
Fucking media.
If so and Trump wins - can he simply kill the orders?
Yup. Good thing he did it at the start of his term so as many people as possible could do it before it could get killed. Be pretty immoral if he was just creating a hostage situation.
Let's play "How will the GOP kill the dems' plans!"
- Via the GOP justices on the supreme court.
- Via judge shopping the plans go to the wackadoodle GOP judges on the Fifth Circuit.
- DC GOP pols kill it.
- The GOP president kills it.
- State GOP pols kill it in their state.
- Etc! Because the GOP will figure out other methods.
- [Did I forget anything?]
Just yesterday I saw a popular Bluesky thread about how incrementalism gets a really bad rap. Simultaneously I had a feeling of humor, a feeling of "No! No! Fucking no!" where I wanted to shake my head, and I was angry.
if he loses and the program gets nixed the trump government uses that list of people who started the process to arrest and kick out first because none will get through it by the time that happens
Yuuuup. This is so obviously bad faith, I can only assume every lib out there is posting it in their social media as another Biden Win.
Weren't people married to us citizens automatically made citizens up until like 2001 or something
oh yeah, hogs would really consider this one in an unbiased manner
good immigrant (married, integrated, producing surplus value) vs. bad immigrant (young male, refugee, etc.)
so wait, this isnt new legislation this is a policy change he could have had enacted three years ago?
I read the article and it was shit. It seems Biden plans two executive orders so if Trump wins - he'll kill the orders.
so basically biden is saying here is a process you can get started with and if trump wins you've basically told him you are illegal and he'll come for you first
Unless I'm missing something - that seems to be a grim possible outcome. And ICE could "accidentally" leak the entire list with loads of personal info to their friendliest right-wing media outlet. Or if that was too problematic - somebody could take the mountain of data and they could leak it to the media themselves. Why not? Trump would call them a real American and a patriot and he'd tell the world that if the dems tried to prompt his DOJ or his FBI to go after them - it wouldn't matter. He's got pardon power.
im not even thing that backhanded literally just trump undoing the order and being like, well all these people are undocumented and no longer in any legal process to be documented so kick em out they even filled out this paperwork with their current address