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[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Whoa, that’s so weird. The social structures intentionally and consistently attempting to remove autonomy from a subset of the population are unpopular among that same subset. I can’t understand why. It’s like, kitchen anti-abortion nuclear family, amiright fellas?

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, I did mean subset. Weird typo for me, thank you for pointing it out.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 52 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“The crackdown on women [...] also stems from growing anxieties many evangelicals have about what they see as swiftly changing norms around gender and sexuality in America.”

"Swiftly changing"? This stuff changed in the 70's!

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But apparently they're working on changing it back to 19th century normal.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And let's not imagine that's where they plan to stop. Give them free reign and they WILL start burning witches again.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they're talking about trans people, not women's rights.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

But when they attack trans people for some reason cis women keep losing rights and safety

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This is why the GOP and conservatives are so bat shit off the walls lately. Their belief system is on deaths door and they know that if they don't take power now, they'll never regain it.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's part of it. People are leaving Christianity, and it's disproportionately the rational ones. So who does that leave behind?

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

"Please, stay and don't talk or be in leadership!!! Seriously, we need to tell you what to do with your body!!! Where are you going?"

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I never let my daughter get started.

[–] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I never let my daughter [insert any action here].

You could make a religion out of this.

Edit: This is a reference to a joke.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a a bit of an unfair characterization.

Never letting your child be indoctrinated or abused or harmed isn’t a bad thing at all.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Reference to "History of the World, I guess."

It has a running theme of religions forming, then during all the beheadings in France it says "You can make a religion out of this" followed quickly by someone retorting "No, don't."

That's a bit of a shit take. I also never let my daughter get behind the wheel of a car, smoke marijuana, or do meth.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You start by thanking god for supper and end up losing the right of your vagina.

[–] baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Iʼd flee too if church leaders were matchmaking me in order to enforce racial divides. Mormon church example, emphasis mine:

We recommend that people marry those who are of the same racial background generally, and of somewhat the same economic and social and educational background (some of those are not an absolute necessity, but preferred), and above all, the same religious background, without question” (“Marriage and Divorce,” in 1976 Devotional Speeches of the Year [Provo: Brigham Young University Press, 1977], p. 144).

Source: Aaronic Priesthood Manual 3. (1995). churchofjesuschrist.org. Chapter 31 “Choosing an Eternal Companion”. Accessed 2024-06-13.

Context: This manual is what is currently taught to young men beginning at age 12.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Religion is always organized. That's the definition of it. It's organized belief. Take away the organization (= rules on how to believe / act), and you're left with personal beliefs.

Fuck all religions :)

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know. I've been to some pretty disorganized Hellenistic pagan events. Damn good time, though.

"Ah shit, when was the sermon supposed to start? Let's see, where did I put my notes...does anyone have a bible or something I can borrow?"

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

maybe we need a new religion that thinks corporations are demons from hell and need to be destroyed rather than one that treats women like property.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Will never happen, because religions serve to help keep the people in power where they are.

[–] dumples@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mixing religion and politics has made both worse. When your values and your religion are mismatched one will have to give. In this case it's religion. While I know some churches know this most do not. Especially those who are more politically connected. You made your bed now watch women leave it

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You literally CAN'T make religion worse.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Good. The sooner the poison of religion is relegated to the dustbin of history, the better. The Abrahamic faiths are just the worst of the bunch.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the real reason for this push toward dictatorship. These religions know they are dying out and wish to push the world back into darkness. Its only in darkness and ignorance that they can flourish.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it's as simple as there being one sole reason, but it's definitely one of the reasons.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Don't discount the idea that their fundamental drives/perversions are not the primary reason for nearly all of their actions. At the heart of these broken people is the idea that they can control women so they are free to rape them at will. They wont put it that way but lets face it that is what they want.

I'm a middle aged white male. As a result when meeting these petty little people I often hear comments and opinions that make it clear they have little respect for women or anyone who does't share their pigmentation and religion. I've met some truly horrible people. Not that they are the majority but it seems the more wealthy they are the more unhinged they are. All I have to do keep silent to hear it. I've heard these trash ideas many times from sad little garbage humans who think women taking a pill or controlling their own bodies is the reason why they can't 'keep' a woman. The idea that they are wrong never enters their mind. They blame everyone but themselves for their troubles. Nothing would please them more than to be able to make a woman a owned object and to be sure its their final goal. Along with anyone who they don't agree with or approve of.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Can we stop using "religion" to refer to only Christianity? Please?

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The stats they're using refer to the increase in women identifying as "unaffiliated" regardless of starting religion. However, the examples and stories they use refer to Christianity specifically.

So the title is right, just the article as a whole is just weirdly focused on Christianity

[–] dumples@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it's still the dominant religion in the USA so it makes sense that it's where people are fleeing from.

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Oh for sure, but you'd hope they'd try to make it a bit less conflicting with the more generic title. It totally makes sense why it's Christianity focused

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You got one that humanity wouldn't be better off without?

[–] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People consider Catholicism, protestantism, and Mormonism as separate religions. But also that's the vast majority of religion in the US, so.

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