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It found that just one-third of all young Americans said they would back Biden if the election was held at the time the survey was conducted. The poll also reflects a virtual tie in the race. Biden leads former President Donald Trump by just two points, and 34% of respondents are currently backing a third-party candidate or said they would support “someone else.”

Plus, despite speculation over how U.S. support for Israel may negatively affect Biden’s youth coalition, the poll found that the war in Gaza is not the top voting issue for most young Americans. Instead, economic concerns, particularly over inflation, remain front and center.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Biden leads former President Donald Trump by just two points

I think you mean "former President and convicted felon Donald Trump", NPR.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah; it is headline engineering again. It's extremely notable to me that they wrote that story and then attached this headline to it.

They could have written the story Joe Biden Retakes the Lead Over Trump in National Polling Average, or focused on the electoral college and written Joe Biden Suddenly Leads Donald Trump in Multiple Battleground States.

Personally, I think reporting on the polls this far out of the election with the voodoo polling methodology that's in use is a pretty big waste of time whichever way they are pointing. But, clinging to some particular segment that lets you write bad news for Biden, when there's a story that's available that's actually more interesting that they could be writing as well as being more click-inducing, is a rare little fascinating window into what type of stories they're trying to write, and what ozma would like to post (i.e. not enlightening of reality). But what do I know. Why ozma's doing it, I feel like I have a pretty good idea about; why NPR is doing it is a little more of an open question.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You forgot to add piece of shit, rapist, and plague on society.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

that Hillary lost to a piece of shit, rapist, plague on society, convicted felon – that Biden just barely squeaked by a piece of shit, rapist, plague on society, convicted felon – that Biden is only two points ahead of a piece of shit, rapist, plague on society, convicted felon – that the DNC refuses to give us anyone who won’t just pull even with a piece of shit, rapist, plague on society, convicted felon

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

He wasn't a convicted felon in 2016.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

All that. Yup.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)
[–] Moneo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This narrative has really annoyed me on lemmy. So many comments about how Biden is ruining his chance of winning by his Israel/Palestine stance but absolutely no evidence to back it up.

[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How about the more than half a million uncommitted votes on this exact issue? He is in real danger in Michigan which is vital to his reelection.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm from Michigan and while its not the top of the list, it is enough to tip the already close scale against him. He needs to address this.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Stopping the supply of support to Israel, not blocking the UN from acting, and revisiting the report his administration lied in about whether this was a genocide.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

There's a reason Bill Clinton and Obama did so much outreach to those two demographics. And why that translated to very impressive victories for them.

Biden isn't doing any, and seems openly antagonistic to anyone under 40 years old.

I don't know why we stopped doing what worked when Obama left office.

We know what Dem voters want, I don't get why trump means we can't give them it. What's worrying is it looks like what matters is the people in charge of the party think they might not have to give Dem voters want they want...

And they're willing to roll the dice again.

This should be an easy win, just like the last two elections should have been.

[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The DNC doesn't feel like they need to earn votes, and the over 40 crowd is the easiest to target because they will vote VBNMW. They are the reason politics is a cesspool.

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The Biden-Harris Administration’s Student Debt Relief Plan Explained" - https://studentaid.gov/debt-relief-announcement

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Supreme Court issued a decision blocking us from moving forward with our one-time student debt relief plan. The information below is not up to date.

The corruption of the SC is a huge issue causing a lot of issues, and Biden is doing nothing to stop it.

He could pack the courts, but the reason for not doing it, is republicans will pack the courts even more...

But if trump is president, we won't have elections anymore anyways, right?

So why leave the corrupt SC in place when it wasn't that long ago a corrupt SC stole an election from Dems and handed it to a Republican?

Why isn't Biden fucking fighting for us?

It's literally his job.

Since he won't, why not run someone who will?

[–] Spitzspot@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry, what does that have to do with fixing what is likely the largest single issues facing America and what I was just talking about:

  1. Corruption of the Supreme Court

  2. Biden's refusal to say it's a problem

It's very hard to tell what part your having difficulty with when you only comment the name of an article and the link...

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The fact that people block ozma when this is a perfectly valid political post about a very concerning topic would be hilarious if the consequences weren't so dire.

They'll ignore the canary in the coalmine and then wake up after Election Day and wonder what the fuck happened. Again.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not worth blocking and most of the time their articles are perfectly valid political posts. It's just that everything that is presented always pushes a negative view of Biden.

OP has been pretty adamant that Biden will be replaced at the convention with some unnamed candidate, why does his polling matter then? They claim they're sounding the alarm, but everyone here already knows the alarm is going. Not only that but if you try and get any direction on what to do with this information they refuse to engage and go straight to bad faith debate bro bullshit. It's incredibly frustrating.

Making people feel worse about democracy and participating doesnt help us at all. It's not denying reality, everyone already knows reality is shit right now. We need people willing to work together to improve life for everyone.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is it ozma's responsibility to figure out how the Biden campaign should stop this? Aren't they the adults in the room?

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen a few people complain about how "everything is anti-Biden, so I blocked them." Which is a bit like "That canary is too loud so I'm just gonna crank my airpods." Also, neither of those links have any posts about ozma's behavior.

[–] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Why would anyone block ozma? I think he's a bit too "doom and gloom" about all this, and also is wrong that any other candidate that the DNC could put out could beat Trump. But the links he puts up are legit, and his positions do have some reasoning behind them, even if I disagree. There are other folks much more deserving of blocking.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

No. They'll blame the canary.

We saw this in 2016.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In 2020, 89% of Black voters aged 18-29 voted for Biden, as well as 78% of those aged 30-44. In the latest GenForward survey, just 33% said they would support him if the election were held today and 23% chose Trump.

Trump is beating Biden among young Latino voters by a four-point margin. It’s a significant drop in support for Biden compared to four years ago, when he won 69% of Latino voters under 30, and 62% of those 30-44.

“Young people are saying to Joe Biden, ‘win me, win my vote,’” said Cathy Cohen, a professor at the University of Chicago who founded and leads the GenForward poll. “'Don't assume I'm going to vote for you now.'”

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I keep beating this drum every time they use a fake concern for people of colors well being as a reason to vote Biden but they don't want to hear it. It's so wild they'll stick their heads as deep in the sand as MAGA when it's news they don't like. They're so terrified any bad news means trump will win they'll drown out and censor shit like this and then don't realize why people call them Blue MAGA. The Republicans hate any facts that dont let them be racist and Democrats hate any facts that make Biden look bad. Cant wait until they tell us 'no on could have seen this coming'

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The things shes done to women trying to tell their stories, and the propping up of Trump because she thought it was a layup, yeah I would have to delusionally convince myself that Im always right in order to keep living without a self harm level of guilt too.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


It’s a regularly covered topic as President Biden continues to receive low marks from Gen Z and millennial voters, even as the same age group decidedly voted for him four years ago.

Plus, despite speculation over how U.S. support for Israel may negatively affect Biden’s youth coalition, the poll found that the war in Gaza is not the top voting issue for most young Americans.

That said, the economy is one of several policy areas, along with immigration and the war in Gaza, where respondents were less likely to pick Biden as the best candidate to handle the issue, illustrating a potentially deeper problem for his campaign with younger Americans.

The latest poll’s inclusion of third-party candidates Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Cornel West may also indicate how additional names on the ballot could splinter the youth vote in the fall.

A similar result was reflected in the latest Harvard Youth Poll, Biden defeats Trump in a head-to-head matchup, but when third-party candidates are included, the margin decreases.

It all underscores the complex choice many undecided young Americans have this fall, Cohen argued, especially for voters of color, who may typically align themselves with Democratic values.


The original article contains 1,204 words, the summary contains 196 words. Saved 84%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago

people are getting sick and tired of having to vote for “the lesser of two evils” – and the DNC refuses to give us anything other than a Lesser Evil – “we’ll push him left after the election” – no, you fucking won’t, he’s just gonna keep ratcheting right

I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. … The Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Counciler or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season”. Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will.

—Martin Luther King, Jr., “Letter from Birmingham Jail” (1963-04-16)