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Feb 2022 is when they started transitioning from pcr's for everyone to home tests.

May 2023 is when they declared an "end to the public emergency" and ended the emergency and stopped requiring hospitals to test people.

This year they stopped requiring hospitals to report much of anything.

I guess this is just how it's going to be from now on, and we'll have to figure out what damage it's doing by analyzing excess death rates

BTW many parts of the US (Hawaii and SF, and my little town apparently) and world are experiencing a pretty sizeable covid surge at the moment. Most likely from the FLiRT variant, and there is also a different variant coming up called kp.3, so that's fun.

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[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

So COVID is literally just forever? It mutates too fast for vaccines. What the fuck. Is there anything that could be done at this point?

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lol we could still just do an actual lockdown (worldwide) for a few weeks and be in vastly better shape, but it would ruin capitalism.

[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

If every country adopted China's zero covid policy we'd probably have been fine.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also you would have like 20 chud shooters a day

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

If the US had an actual legitimate pandemic response like other countries, with checks and supplies being delivered on the regular, I think the chuds would be much more manageable. Of course, it would require any media pushing anti-whatever rhetoric would need to be taken to Central Park. But I think those first couple months of unified 'flatten the curve' discourse shows how powerful they are in shaping public response when they're not trying to commit social murder to make the line go up.

Obviously, this is never happening again under capitalism, which makes the anti-mask, 'back to normal', "leftists" all the more... mind-blowing. kind-vladimir-ilyich

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

You're not wrong

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

That's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

End capitalism, global co-operation, lockdowns, mobilise emergency forces and army to help, strict enforcement. Pandemic would be over in 3 years max

[–] jonne 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the pandemic is "over", now it's just endemic, so you can get COVID randomly in the same way you can catch the flu.

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

There's plenty of things we could be doing to make the world safer from covid (and other respritory viruses), but only very marginalized peoples are fighting for them. Better air filtration. Widespread use of Far-UV technology (UV lights that are harmless to humans, but absolutely destroy viruses and mold). Better sick time policies.

None of these are a solution, but we could probably live in a world with even less viral influence than 2019 if we really tried.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

🙈 🙈🙈

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Honestly saw the writing on the wall since the 2000s. How many people denied climate change not necessarily because they weren't sure it was happening, but argued from consequence.

"Climate change? Environmentalism? BUT MUH FREEEDUMBS!"

Point is, anglo culture is too focused on its pleasures to sacrifice anything even for its own survival.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The climate change thing is the number one reason that I still keep up precautions. Like oh how did ignoring scientists for the last 70 years go for us?

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

grillman: "Yeah, but, have you considered just how COOL we looked ignoring those nerds!?"

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Point is, anglo culture is too focused on its pleasures to sacrifice anything even for its own survival.

You can't blame this one on anglos (other than in the sense that they engineered it), everyone is non-masked and pretends it's gone

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Anglos as a group did far worse than many other people though.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Liz@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know what that is.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Still lolling at how "China is under-reporting their COVID deaths" and "China is pretending there is no pandemic" ended up being pure projection

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The spike is happening in Australia too but the state media is saying its because of colder weather as we come into winter and that there is nothing to worry about.

"How many realities can I deny with one stone?"

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Wow, we are still claiming this shit? Lol

[–] SmokinStalin@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, capitalism created the conditions necessary for a new endemic disease. It's forever a part of the human environment untill after a global revolution/rebuilding and advancement in how we treat medicine in general.

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Endemic means predictable seasonal patterns, which isn't happening because of our constant mass incubation of new mutations. The pandemic phase won't end until universal zero covid is implemented by communists, or a magic sterilizing vaccine covering all possible variants appears

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The graph at the top is odd. It's specifically from Santa Clara County, CA. The biobot data nationally, and in my region never looked like that. i.e. the waves following omicron were much more mild in concentration.

Here's another showing the January wave, with the current uptick still very small in comparison. Makes me curious what's up with SCC's data. Maybe they didn't capture the omicron wave very well in their rolling average? It looks like a single data point at the peak. If that wave wasn't captured well it'd cause the following waves to look anomalously larger after scaling to case numbers.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The more you zoom out, and the longer this has gone on, the less data points we've had resulting in far less accuracy when averaged at greater scale. At a county level, there's been traveling spikes moving throughout the country in unmonitored counties that are basically feeding the surrounding areas and keeping the floor raised.

Also as this has gone, and with the variety of variants, the synchronicity between people's immunity to any specific variant has become wildly out of step. So you get half your population immune during one wave, and then a few months later their population wanes and you see a sudden spike because the next county over caused an outbreak in your now immune less population.

I'm afraid I don't have the screenshots for it anymore but a really good example was in Monroe county Florida they began monitoring out of nowhere, and then suddenly spiked higher than anything the neighboring (and well populated) miami-dade county saw the entire pandemic. Monroe county (and eventually Miami-Dade) then stops monitoring and we have no clue what's happening down in that area of Florida.

Anyway tldr, the raised floor we're seeing is being sustained by the unmonitored counties spiking that we're not seeing.

Oh, I do have Seminole county which did something similar, but we had much more data. Seminole County neighbors Orange County (Disney, etc) and popped higher than any recorded data we had the Disney area.

Here's when I noticed Monroe county spiking and saved some of the data. https://hexbear.net/comment/3919179

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Oh, this is embarrassing, but you spelled 'most efficient system' wrong.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] nothx@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

how so? i remember hearing about how it would become "the common cold"

afaik vaccination and lockdowns were supposed to avoid deaths, but that we wouldnt be able to truly contain it? is the death rate still as high as on peak covid?