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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/2652265

Me and some friends are leaving in a month's time, maybe two.

Give me suggestions down below. I'm asking on Discord, Twitter, etc.

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[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Florence was my favorite. The medicis had a shitload of money and weren't shy about splashing it around. The cathedral is sick. Ponte Vecchio is very beautiful at night. Food is awesome, and great museums (see the David in person it's worth it)

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

also, thanks

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what I meant by the cathedral I havent been in a long time

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Get your tickets ahead of time (online), and go early, most tourists don't like waking up early, especially to climb a ton of stairs.

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[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I went through a few Italian places back in 2016.

You gotta see Venice, that's a must see. It's just such a unique place. Same with Rome, you just have to.

Besides that, Cortona was wonderful (it's in Tuscany where you're going already). Nice little small town. Very dope.

Trieste was really interesting and not far from Venice, you could visit it. Lots of different cultures all kind of melted together there.

Naples was cool - other backpackers gave me a hard time about seeing southern Italy because of the crime, but it was more like any run down post industrial North American town than some crime den. If you're going to see Pompeii chances are you'll be in or near Naples anyway. It was cool, lots of art.

Ravenna was also really cool. I was surprised so many other backpackers didn't seem to know about it? It's quite an old and cultured city.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Naples is near Pompeii.. Gotcha. Already going to Pompeii.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

do you want an annotated map of pompeii that tells you where to find the locations of all my favorite graffiti

it's color coded, inscriptions relating to fucking are in pink and ones relating to shitting are in brown

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

gimme a few days to dig it up, i made it for some relatives last year but they fucked up and never used it

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It's a fake country from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure, I know.

Too bad for you; I'm going there anyway!

[–] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Naples is very beautiful and there's mount Vesuvius, Pompeii and Herculaneum to see there, though if you're going to visit Pompeii leave a full day free for it and bring plenty of bottled water because (at least when I went as a kid) hardly any of the water fountains there work. Also the pizzas they make are literally incredible

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Bring plenty of bottled water (water fountains don't work).

Gotcha.

[–] Leon_Frotsky@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The same goes for Vesuvius because there's also no shade and no water sources on the way up

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

No shade... Bring lots of water... Okay, putting that in my Google Doc.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

gotcha, gotcha

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[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

don't bother going north of Rome, tuscany's Disneyland and everything above it is just emotive germany

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So Tuscany... good, right?

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

tuscany bad, it's a fuckin manicured tourist trap

south italy is where it's at: dirty, hot, poor, brown, olive oil not butter

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OH FUCK

So... don't go? What's wrong with it?

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

i mean it's beautiful and you'll probably love it but i used to work in south italy so it feels super fake and touristy in comparison

in tuscany everyone you'll see will be a rich middle aged tourist; go to the toe, sole or heel of the boot and everyone you see will be a real working class italian or a scabby cat

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

sicily's definitely real, whole bay of naples area is tight, anywhere in the mountains will be super nice

i used to work in pompeii, you should spend several days there and in herculaneum and other regional sites

learn a little italian though, people speak less english south of florence and venice

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

List the regional sites in Pompeii for me, plox.

And the bay of Naples area is great? Okay, I'll check out the bay then...

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

the villa of the mysteries is walking distance from pompeii and has secret rooms where a cult tripped balls to commune with dionysus

paestum's cool, just a big open field full of giant temples

do not miss the naples museum, that's where a lot of the best shit from pompeii/herculaneum went

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why go to Italy when little italy is in nyc and there's obese italian mobsters?

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hell, why even go to NYC when New York, New York is in Las Vegas and you can support the mobsters directly through charitable donations at the nickel slots?

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[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Why go to Little Italy when I go to Big Italy?

lea-smug

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Here.

This is what I have so far:

San Secondo

See - What To Do

  • Get to ancestor’s birth-place.

  • Get the document that says you are registered at the Comune: as Italian. This is your town now.

Meals

  • Best gelato in Italy?

Bologna

See - What To Do

  • Oldest university

  • Visit Piazza Maggiore

  • Basilica di San Petroni (the library with frescos)

Venice

See - What To Do

  • Gondola trip (80)

  • libreria acqua alta.

  • Plaza San Marco (St. Mark’s Square)

  • Daytrip Murano/Burano

  • Don't miss the Leonardo DaVinci museum (5 euros)

  • Trieste is close to Venice the same way Boston is close to NY. You'll spend a day on the train getting there and back. Just be mindful that Italy is not as small as one would think.

Lodging/$

  • 4 beds in Airbnb is about $334 a night.

  • 3 beds about $377

Pompeii

See - What To Do

  • Pompeii/Herculaneum

  • near Naples

  • Caserta if you're in the environs of Napoli, Pompeii too (there's old Greek ruined cities in the south too if you're into looking at foundations and broken colonnades)

  • the Villa of the Mysteries is walking distance from Pompeii and has secret rooms where a cult communed with Dionysus

Naples

See - What To Do

  • whole bay of Naples area is nice

  • go hiking in the mountains

  • Mount Vesuvius (no shade; bring lots of bottled water as there’s none going up)

  • the Naples museum, where a lot of the stuff from Pompeii/Herculaneum went to

  • Secret Museum

  • “A really cute city down the road from Naples is Salerno. The whole Amalfi coast is just very picturesque and beautiful.”

Umbria

See - What To Do

  • Assisi

  • Perugia

Tuscany

See - What To Do

  • “Umbria is next door to Tuscany, so it's an easy mistake to make.”

  • Val d'Orcia

  • Cortona

Lodging/$

  • Assisi is cheaper than other places.

How To Get There (Transportation)

  • Buses from airport to Perugia (3 hrs. 45 min. and $25/person)

Florence

See - What To Do

  • Ponte Vecchio

  • Il Duomo (get your tickets ahead of time (online), and go early, most tourists don't like waking up early, especially to climb a lot of stairs)

  • great museums (see the David in person it's worth it; also book tickets for the david musuem IN ADVANCE! (2h30 queue if you don't...))

  • visit the Belvedere

Verona

See - What To Do

  • the coliseum there

  • the castle there

  • also has the Romeo and Juliet tourist traps

Ravenna

See - What To Do

  • Lots of history here; old city

  • “San Vitale has a famous mosaic, the mausoleum of theodoric contains a certified goth icon”

Sardinia

See - What To Do

  • “I've only been to Sardinia, but I can highly recommend it, great nature and beaches, the food is hardy and pastoral, lots of goat cheese and heavy pasta dishes. One standout dish was Zuppa Gallurese, which is a stew/lasagna based on bread soaked in a rich broth and baked with tonnes of cheese. Their limoncello is also insanely good.

We did have the advantage of an italian friend who's from there and we rented a car to drive around the island which made things a lot smoother, so your mileage might vary, but check out some of the farm-restaurants and the old castles if you get there.”

The Dolomites

See - What To Do

  • Go hiking here.

  • Highly recommended, but in the north-east of Italy so sort-of out of the way.

Use:

https://hostelworld.com/

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[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I have some plans...

San Secondo, Bologna, Venice, Pompeii, and Tuscany.

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[–] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One thing I would say is you should be planning lodging already if you haven't yet. I went in like April so I could do it last minute, but if you go in summer, stuff fills up fast, especially the cheap lodging.

You can use hostelworld.com as a search engine, but I like to look up their website afterward and book directly. It saves the hostel runners money.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

thanks, I'll use that link

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Caserta if you're in the environs of Napoli, Pompeii too. there's old greek ruined cities in the south too if you're into looking at foundations and broken collonades.

Rome is nice, has all the hits, probably the most balanced between modern and ancient attractions in one place

Venice is very crowded and smells bad most of the time

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there's old greek ruined cities in the south too if you're into looking at foundations and broken collonades


Jotting down Caserta and Greek foundations in my notes. THanks!

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A really cute city down the road from Naples is Salerno. The whole Amalfi coast is just very picturesque and beautiful.

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[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

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Okay, so far, I'm going to:

San Secondo (go to the Comune and get registered as an Italian through some distant relation; I know, it's pretty cheap of me to do that, but a relative wants me to get Italian citizenship and, by extension, certain European travel rights)

Bologna (visit Piazza Maggiore)

Venice (Gondola trip, 80 euros or so)

Pompeii (see Herculaneum)

Naples (see bay area; presumably mountain-hiking as well)

Tuscany (witness Assisi; Porugia; Cortona)

Florence (Ponte Vecchio; Il Duomo)

Verona (the coliseum there; the castle there; also has the Romeo and Juliet tourist traps)

Ravenna (Lots of history here; old city; don't know what to do here yet)

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

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Look to what this comment is replying to to see how my plans have so far been added up.

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[–] Owl@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of the parts of Italy I've seen (can't list them, sorry) I liked Milan the most for urban design, and Florence the most for museums and sightseeing.

Also every restaurant that the Italian family I stayed with recommended was bad. Every time I went somewhere else, picking essentially at random, the food was great. I don't know how well that generalizes.

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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Think about and research transportation costs within Italy before you plan a sprawling trip with upwards of 5 cities.

When I was there, train ticket prices within Italy were scaled with the distance traveled. I only visited 3 or 4 cities and I was blown away how much I spent on train tickets. It was an unbudgeted "surprise" expense.

My advice would be that unless you're backpacking/hitchhiking (which gets harder the more people you have), either pick two or three or even fewer locations and really really explore them thoroughly, or consider picking up a Eurail pass, which will for a flat rate allow you to take pretty much any train for free after the initial cost. Or, if one of you is older than 25 + you have 3 or 4 people going, it may make sense to split the cost of a car rental among your friends.

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[–] Comp4@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not much to add. I hope you have fun and enjoy your trip

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