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Beijing Superconductor (LK-99) Levitation Video Author Admits Fraud, Takes it Down::The author of one of the Billibilli videos posted as proof of LK-99's levitation capabilities has admitted that his posting was a hoax.

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[–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Is there a word for something that is disappointing but simultaneously unsurprising?

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 27 points 2 years ago
[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Skymt@feddit.nu 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wasn't expecting that...

[–] ElBarto@lzrprt.sbs 6 points 2 years ago

No one ever does.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago

Inevitable?

It's worth pointing out that all this is is the video from the Beijing example which I honestly haven't even heard about. This does not mean the product itself is a fraud which I'm sure people are going to jump up and down on.

[–] quinkin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

That's terrable

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it is disappointing it doesn't fulfill your expectations. But if you expected it to happen then it's not disappointing

[–] The_Vampire@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Not really, disappointing also includes a failure to fulfill hopes, not just expectations. You can expect an outcome and also be disappointed by it.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 54 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So… how much ya wanna bet this guy faked up the video to secure/maintain funding, and didn’t quite realize how far it’d go ….

… and back tracked as soon as they realized there was about to be a shitload of scrutiny.

[–] Kyoyeou@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Could have gone way worst with years of lies Theranos style

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

oh absolutely.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I should release my paper about how I turned lead into gold. Nobody would care about that one, right?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

well, it's already been done. (well, that may not be what's going on in the article, but the particle accelerators have created gold... by doing their smashy-smashy thing)(I'm sure the physicists love it when we reduce decades of their work to sounding like toddlers smacking stuff together to see what happens... it's really ~~grown up~~ serious science!)

[–] remotelove@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

So your saying that the person who sold me my alchemist degree and the secret formula was full of shit? Damn.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The original poster of one of the Billibilli videos circulating on the Internet and seemingly proving LK-99's levitation ability has come forward, and admitted his clip was a hoax.

The video in question is allegedly from the University of Science and Technology in Beijing and purports to show a small black substance floating in the air as it follows a magnet.

Whenever a claim as momentous and potentially civilization-changing such as "we've found the world's first room-temperature superconductor" is made, noise is bound to follow.

But even focusing on the hard science (which we want to be clear, replicable, and truthful) and moving on to the boundaries of peer-review scientific process, it becomes difficult to deal with the noise.

Neither the cooking time (how long at what temperatures the mixtures have to stay within a vacuum oven for LK-99 to be synthesized and whether there's thermal variation at any moment) nor the quench rate (the same, but when it needs to cool down) are, however, well-documented.

The video poster ultimately claimed that the experience of being a part of the noise had changed him, and that he'd be more cautious with his actions and words in the future.


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[–] Forestial@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] yiliu@informis.land 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Seems like a bad take. This is from the equivalent of some random YouTube video, unrelated to the original university & scientists.

You think it'd be possible to find a YouTube video with some bad science nonsense in it? Would that warrant a "fraud in the US, huh" comment?

Separately, science in China does have a fraud problem. But this video wasn't an example of that.

[–] Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean your example is still accurate. The person posting that video is a fraud, and if they live in America, "fraud in the US" would be most accurate as it singles out a specific person, as opposed to the statement I believe you are trying to make which would be don't judge the whole country by 1 person. Yet they didn't say that, they specifically say a fraud(singular) in China.

[–] Helluin@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i mean the point they were trying to make is pretty clear imo no need to dance around it so pedantically.

[–] Redditiscancer789@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Is it though or are you personally just projecting? Considering the language used.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 0 points 2 years ago

They better be careful otherwise the world won't take them seriously anymore, oh wait.

[–] dbilitated@aussie.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I felt bad for scanning the big list for replication results that weren't Chinese 😞

turns out I was right

[–] waterbogan@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago

China and fraud - like peanut butter and jelly, they just go together naturally

[–] HollandJim@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I think we're starting to lose the bigger picture - Re-read that first sentence after the headline (emphasis mine):

"This is only one of several videos from different sources claiming to show the substance levitating."

This isn't about LK-99 per se, but one of the videos that came after the announcement, likely trying to capitalize on it if only for views. There's still hope LK-99 can be corroborated.

[–] demonquark@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It was the video of the guy in Seoul who went to their office that made the fraud painfully obvious.