chapotraphouse

Times like these I'm glad I grew up catholic before switching to atheism because it makes me completely immune to all this trad bullshit. Like a vaccine, I guess.

dae le epic bacon eucharist

setting aside the for a sec...

hinduism doesn't have a religious objection to alcohol? it's a social objection - it makes you behave like an ass. there are some philosophical points like how it makes you less human and more animal because it clouds the mind and brings out your baser nature. there's no religious prohibition that I'm aware of. some sects of Brahmins might treat it as a religious prohibition but there's no shot this is any kind of blanket ban by the religion as a whole. it's not very prevalent because there was a religious prohibition by the Mogul empire for a very long time.

people try to treat Hinduism like it's one religion with a completely unified and consistent belief system when it's more like christianity - there are quite literally countless different religious doctrines made at different times and that are accepted or rejected by various groups at various points of history. there isn't anything quite like a central church, at least since the collapse of the Indian empire, so it's more about which line of scholars and sages/saints you adhere to. hell, one of the major schools of Hinduism historically is literally atheist - following the Buddhist tradition, they deny the material world as real and seek truth in philosophy and spirituality. while this school isn't strictly alive today, it forms much of the backbone of Hindu philosophy in the present.

even not eating meat isn't a universal. it's a relatively common prohibition but one mainly kept by particular social classes (Vaishnavite brahmins in particular, though many others as well). for example, a lot of Shaivite families do eat meat - especially fish. it's beef that's totally unacceptable in pretty much all contexts and that's because people drink cow's milk. milk comes from mothers so to eat a cow is like eating your own mother.

it's very weird to me to consider any of these religious prohibitions, to be honest. the reasons are all framed philosophically and they're accepted or rejected by various scholars contemporaneously with each other. and it misses weirder stuff like certain religious groups prohibiting garlic and onion because they make you more physical and lead you away from a path towards yoga (union with the divine soul of all things). but again, this is only done by very particular groups and at very particular times. my grandparents adhered to this and the rest of my family did not.

I think a lot of what gets confused here is that Hinduism incorporates so many different belief systems - I'm not sure I've ever seen any other religion that absorbed quite so many, not by treating other religions as heresy and wiping them out (though that obviously happened too) but more often just because some sage decided to study the other belief system and came back and said "I tried this and I was able to achieve union by following their path - their beliefs are Hindu".

as a contemporary example, there are sects of Catholics in India that the Catholic church refuses to recognize because they're convertees who invented their own fusion of Catholicism and Hinduism that has Jesus as a previously unrecognized avatar of Vishnu, or names Krishna to be an avatar of Jesus, while adding a bunch of saints because, like Mormons, they believe Jesus came to live among them and converted some saints during his travels. this kind of local incorporation and reinvention is utterly commonplace.

(this is actually one of the more infuriating parts of the religious strife between Hindus and Muslims - Islam was decreed Hindu during the Mogul empire, just as Christianity was during the British empire. the British stoked the flames of religious war to serve their own ends - but the whole reason there are so many Muslim Indians is because the Hindu institutions welcomed conversions as entirely consistent with a path towards divine union.)

Whoever made this had never met a Sikh. All the ones I know are borderline alcoholics.

Also they can eat non kosher, non halal meat

Idk, eating God is probably the most metal thing catholicism has going for it

Petition to rename Reddit to the Sects Offender Registry

I fully believe that almost every Catholic under the age of 35 that doesn’t have an Italian, Irish, Polish, Hispanic, whatever surname solely joined Catholicism TO SIN.

I’m a non-practicing Catholic (am ) and I take the chuds love of Catholicism as a personal insult. My culture is not your teenage angst.

“Your culture is pure evil….and that’s why I want to join it! Tee-hee, I’m soooo bad!”

That's not what the dharmic religions say. They don't explicitly say "don't eat meat" because that position is only held to the people on top castes. What they do say is that one needs to lower their foot print as a means to lowering the suffering in the world. A Buddhist monk could eat meat but then he'd be contributing to suffering but it doesn't explicitly forbid it. The Buddha died from eating pork and he's the person one should strive into becoming. Also it does explicitly forbid the eating of pork in the Catholic Bible. Shit they forbid you eating pork on Fridays because of some bullshit made up thing that isn't on the Bible.

This isn't even arguing that Catholisism is good. You can chose what you want to eat or drink yourself? You mean just like every secular person can?

Hey there, it's your hip local pastor! Did you know that under Catholicism you can eat Le Epic BACON?

I don't know if Catholicism has pastors, whatever.

there is an emerging subculture of tradcath gymbros who are extremely toxic and imo worse than reddit atheists ever were. i am not going to defend this position btw so please agree with me

Satanism: do EVERY DRUG! Eat human flesh. Do anal!

I DGAF

Reddit atheists were and still are a total clownshow. So it tracks that as they got a little bit older and started to stare life down they folded and double downed on becoming reactionary theists.

I give massive respect to Islam for forbidding booze. As much as I love cooking with some wine or beer, I've seen too many habitual drunken drivers in my life to have the best regard for drinking culture.

Also, whoever made this is definitely isn't that Catholic

The Catholic calendar is filled with fasting days and you're also not supposed to eat meat on Fridays

Do most Catholics follow these rules? I don't know, it's been a very long time since I have

Everything is a fandom. Catholicism to these people is being racist on Twitter and posting epic Little Dark Age edits of Jesus to Tiktok. They "get into" religion the way other people "get into" Star Wars.

Allowing people to die of preventable foodborne illness in 500CE to own the libs

You cant est meat on the Easter week

That is a false catholic and must me punished

I find it very funny that the new tradcaths ended up there because being "progressive" was mainstream and they needed to rebel by becoming Conservatives.

Wtf are they talking about. Pretty sure the Catholic church goes against eating pork, drinking beer. I remember some members that would not eat any meat during fridays.

According to catholic doctrine, is the Eucharist vegan?

vegetarianism has nothing to do with Hinduism, it's just Aryan cultural tradition

literally 95% of Dravidian people eat animals (and a lot of them beef)