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When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.

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[–] ox0r@jlai.lu 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes i have become a virus, destroyer of cells

[–] hansl@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You were the Chosen One! It was said that you would destroy the virus, not join them!

[–] ox0r@jlai.lu 8 points 2 years ago

OMNOMNOM CELL MEAT

[–] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

Not the Younglings!

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 2 years ago (3 children)

conspiracy theories are consistently just objectively cooler and more awesome than reality, like when conservatives start shouting about luxury gay space communism as if that's supposed to be bad.

I wish i lived in the world where we could inject people with something that turns their DNA into RNA and somehow they continue living, that's rad as hell.

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (4 children)

No way is “the moon landing was faked” cooler than the fact humans walked on the moon 1961. And there is absolutely nothing cool about flat earthers!

[–] root_beer@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No way is “the moon landing was faked” cooler than the fact humans walked on the moon 1961.

Are you starting a new conspiracy theory?

[–] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Hear me out guys. What if the US had already been on the moon by as early as 1961, but decided to just not tell anybody until 8 years later?!

taps head

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

They took over the Nazi base on the Moon as seen in the documentary Iron Sky.

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Shit, I’ve said too much…

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 years ago

the point is it makes feel the conspiracy theorists special, as in that they know something no one else does

like this yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] accideath@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I can also strongly recommend the 2011 German-American Documentary Die Mondverschwörung about various conspiracy theories about the moon and other things. It’s hilarious and sadly real, featuring interviews with lunatics and conspiracy theorists living in Germany.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

us being able to convincingly pull of a fake moon landing would have been vastly more impressive than going to the moon, it would have required insane amounts of coordination and planning with the technology at that time.

[–] DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I mean...the actual moon landing required insane amounts of coordination and planning to do too. Faking it would probably have required significantly less than actually doing it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know, if it was faked, you would also had to find a way to convince thousands of people to keep it all a secret. That would take a ton of coordination and planning.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's also the fact that you have to simulate all the details, basically to fake the moon landing they would have needed to effectively do a moon landing anyways, except you don't even get the benefit of physics doing the job for you.

Like there's a reason a decent amount of people are still using practical FX in movies, it automatically makes things realistic.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

We live in a boring dystopia

[–] just_browsing@reddthat.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's the thing that gets me about conspiracy theories, they're always way too interesting to be real. There are real conspiracies out there but they're almost always boring because the last thing they want is to draw attention.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

It's always fun to compare left-wing conspiracy theories to right-wing ones, left-wing theories are just "rich people are psychopaths who exploit our labour and earth is going to be miserable in 50 years, i want to die"

[–] XEAL@lemm.ee 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You no longer have DNA

Bitch, it's a vaccine, not a lethal dose of radiation

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No no no, you don't understand. It's injecting acid into your body. Acid dissolves things. Things like DNA.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You gotta fight fire with fire, so fighting acid with acid scans.

[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It has been a couple of years since the worst of the COVID pandemic happened.

Shouldn't there be literally millions upon millions of people dropping dead from the vaccines by now if the anti-vaxx predictions were even remotely accurate??

I'd love to see some news story about this. Go back and dig up all the outlandish claims these morons said would happen and then follow that up with reality. I know no reporter would touch this story because that might involve doing some actual work and fact-checking of people. Can't have that.

[–] Licherally@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago

Hell I took the j&j vaccine right around when it was released to the public and I'm still kicking. Doctor says I'm healthy and everything.

But I'm also a paid actor and I'm lying and I actually grew a third arm that only reacts to the soundtrack from the Scott Pilgrim movie so take this with a grain of salt.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They just make up vaccine deaths. If anyone dies for any reason, heart attack, stroke, hit by a bus, they blame the vaccine.

[–] herzberd@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Getting hit by the bus is easy to explain. Clearly the heavy metals in the vaccines magnetized them.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And yet they also accused the CDC of making up the COVID death numbers. I was told by a family member many times that the COVID numbers were inflated because if someone died in a car accident, then tested positive for COVID, that was counted as a COVID death. Even if that were true, it doesn't discount that there were massive numbers of COVID deaths that weren't in a car accident...

But but but the VAERS database shows millions of people dying!

[–] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

they will, be patient, it just takes [life expectancy] years for it to happen. then they'll be proven right! just you wait 70-90 years and see!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 2 years ago

It's been proven that having a low IQ lowers your life expectancy, so they probably won't see.

[–] Tomassci@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People like this can't be talked with, since they missed their lessons about what DNA even is.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah this is a hard thing to broach on people because the whole DNA, how it is transcribed into mRNA, how that's dealt with inside the ribosomes with tRNA, and so forth. That's a good month worth of ninth grade science. That's a month's worth of Monday through Friday, one hour each day, for one month.

And even then, there's a bit of background that works into all of that. Like the various organelles and what their purpose is inside the cells. The various parts of the human immune system and how they work together to fight infections. So there's a lot of people who have a very flawed understanding of ninth grade science and you cannot just simply overcome that lack of knowledge in a single conversation. It's not a single conversation kind of knowledge, it's something that a good part of one's secondary education is devoted to and if you missed it then, it's really hard to go back and regain it.

The wild ramblings that sprung from this pandemic really shows that the education system has failed a lot of people. The why it has failed so spectacularly is a much, much bigger conversation. But all of this craziness that has been created in the wake of the pandemic is a complete failure of very basic science. And I think it's a sobering moment for all of us to soak in.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you could trust they took you at your word you could give a decent explanation of RNA transcription in a few minutes with something like:

"DNA has two copies of all the instructions for making the proteins a cell needs, but it's locked inside the nucleus at the center. Thankfully there's something that makes a new copy, which is sent out of the nucleus to tell other parts what to do. It's like making a copy of a recipe in a cookbook and mailing it to someone so they know how to make it."

You don't need a month of ninth grade science to grok that, you just need to be open to learning new information.

[–] Tomassci@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For the OOP, all they need to know to avoid the thought presented is two things: 1) you need to make proteins continually and 2) DNA serves as a template for making proteins. That's all they literally need to know to realize being without DNA is deadly.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Randal Munroe: "Losing your DNA would most likely result in abdominal pain, dizziness, rapid immune system collapse, and death within days or hours from either rapid systemic infection or systemwide organ failure"

[–] Tomassci@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Thanks for posting the reference, I had it in mind but didn't act

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure this is the plot of GATTACA 2.

[–] philomory@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huh, TIL that there actually was a sequel (of sorts) in the works, albeit it’s been mothballed now. The original film was so fantastic… reading about the sequel I’m not sure how I feel about the idea. It does (or did) at least have some of the original team involved.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I can live without a sequel. The film stands fine on its own. We don't have to find out what happens if he makes it back from space.

GATTACA 2: Borrowed Ladder Boogaloo

Upon discovering the charred bone remains (cremation seldom actually burns everything, they grind up the ‘cremains’ so it’ll be a nice powder for the urn) in the apartment incinerator due to the smell of burning flesh authorizing a warrant, they find that Jerome, who is on the space ship, is actually dead on earth.

Vincent is played by Rob Schneider, so hijinks ensue, until they find out there really IS an imposter on the ship.

After credits has a teaser trailer for the Among Us movie, turns out these first two were just context prequels.

[–] teft@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago

MY DEOXY's HAVE BEEN OXYED!!!!

[–] Chais@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But honestly, how do you talk to those people? They're so caught up in their us-versus-them mentality and think they have the monopoly on truth, that I don't see any way of convincing them that they're not only making a potentially fatal mistake but are a danger to those around them.

[–] SomeoneElse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I’m immunosuppressed so even though I’ve had 6 vaccines now, I still might not have built up enough antibodies to help me survive covid if I catch it. I don’t really go anywhere and wear a mask when I do so I’m as safe as I can be… Except I need a carer to help me out for about 8 hours a week and an unbelievable amount of self employed carers aren’t vaccinated. These are people who work with the elderly and vulnerable and they refuse to get vaccinated. It’s absolutely mind boggling to me.