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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had to suffer and die with cancer, so no one else should get a cure either!

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be pretty pissed too if I died and people were still asking my opinion on political matters.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Now now, let's not get political here. We've got plenty food, housing, and healthcare shortages with capitalism-driven rising temperatures to kill everyone—all lives matter (little enough for governments and corporations to not grind you up for the investors)

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"The GOP is actively preventing Biden from passing legislation. That makes them bad!"

"Biden isn't able to pass any good legislation. That makes him equally as bad!"

[–] JeromeVancouver@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A generation of people got fucked with student loan debt. It is wrong. Debt forgiveness does not fix the root of the problem though. Government needs to find a way to lower post secondary costs.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

does not fix the root of the problem

Sure.

lower post secondary costs

um. No; Free Education. Free education fixes the root of the problem.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's always an interesting balance the conservatives try. They want a strong country and economy. But they also want to keep religious opinions respected above science and exclusive access. Education is the best means of truly making America Great. If every American was educated and had the ability to learn critical decision making, conservatives would be a true minority.

[–] NielsBohron@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Conservatives already are a true minority.

Conservatives have not won the popular vote in a presidential election since 1988 with one exception (Bush Jr.'s reelection during the post-9/11 surge of patriotism). So, in the last 8 presidential elections over the course of 32 years, conservatives won the popular vote once (edit: and I'd argue that even that win was an aberration caused by 9/11 and the Bush administration's misinformation campaign regarding WMD's in Iraq).

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Might I suggest a version of this for all states? Tuition, fees, and books for all I state in public universities (income based)

https://www.mass.edu/osfa/programs/massgrantplusexp.asp

all tuition and mandatory instructional fees will be covered with grant aid for Pell Grant-eligible public higher education

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Biden isn’t able to pass any good legislation.

Old enough to remember 2009, when the Senate had a 60 vote majority but Joe Lieberman kept threatening to join the filibuster with Republicans, so nothing could pass. He famously gutted the Public Option from the ACA with no effort by Obama to save it. Then in 2016, Chuck Schumer allowed an open SCOTUS seat to languish for 11 months because he didn't want to hold up any other Senate business for Mitch McConnell. Then in 2020, Dianne Feinstein couldn't stale the Judiciary Committee for even 3 months to keep ACB out in time for Biden to take office - ACB was seated a week before the general election. Then you've got trillions in bank bailouts, an SEC that doesn't prosecute obvious financial crimes, and an IRS that primarily prosecutes people earning under $20k/year. And every fucking thing that McKinsey Consultant Pete Buttigieg stands for.

This isn't just a Joe Biden problem, although the guy who gave Strom Thurmond's Eulogy is definitely a part of the problem. This is a party that exists entirely as a placeholder when Republicans aren't in power, in order to guarantee only business-friendly legislation and war funding is ever under consideration.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe?!!
(smugly does nothing, mindlessly fondling their purity then lovingly sniffing their fingers)
bOy Oh BoY, i SuRe aM sPeCiaL! a RaRe JeWeL! tHe CeNtEr Of ThE uNiVeRsE!

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

You haven't fixed the issue that caused them to fall over the edge, therefore it's pointless to help them.

-Idiots arguing against student loan forgiveness.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same argument, different scenario.

"Why would he help them out of the polar bear enclosure? We haven't fixed the hole in the fence up top yet."

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This version even allows for victim blaming.

"Why help them out of the polar bear enclosure? They knew what they were doing when they entered through the hole in the fence."

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm for forgiveness AND fixing the problem. One without the other is just moving money from taxpayers to banks.

[–] Asifall@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I increasingly feel like the best (though imperfect) solution that has a realistic chance of happening is just to make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy. This would provide people with huge loans and no job prospects a way out while avoiding giving free money to well paid professionals who don’t really need it. It would also incentivize schools to invest tuition dollars in ways to actually help graduates find employment rather than flashy facilities to bring in freshmen.

Poor students would have a harder time finding loans to go to expensive schools but it seems increasingly like elite colleges aren’t much better than public colleges anyway.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. That has to be allowed.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I’m for forgiveness AND fixing the problem.

That would cost money, though. We're very fiscally conservative around here and we all agree that we shouldn't spend any money.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

My loans JUST got discharged and I feel such a weight lifted off my shoulders. Granted, they've been discharged through a class action lawsuit due to heavy corruption in the school system ( literally horror stories of them dragging students out of class to the deans office and saying "we need more money or you can't graduate")

But regardless, it's nice to have them off my back, i sincerely hope everyone else gets to feel this feeling soon