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[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 106 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Now imagine if you could use FIVE digits for something as important as a bank account.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Even more hilarious is the number of banks that have online login systems that have a maximum length of like 12 characters for the password.

and then the 2nd factor? Yeah that's just another password.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've met ones that restrict passwords to be 6–8 characters

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[–] techt@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I use 8! My mom called me ridiculous for doing that :(

[–] Turun@feddit.de 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is! How long does it even take to type in 40320 digits?!?

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago

I figure gotta be, at least 45 seconds!

[–] blx@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 years ago

She's right, 8 is not a very secure code.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago

You can see that 19xx line continue at 20xx too

[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now someone tell me which pin is the least common one so we all can use it to be safe.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The ones that are showing black dots.

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[–] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fact that every 4-digit pin is in this picture shows quite well how these are pretty easy to crack.

[–] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Idk why you would be cracking a PIN code. They aren’t really typically used for online security (and shouldn’t be). And if your attacker is targeting you, the PIN code isn’t meant to stop them.

What it does stop is you finding a random card on the side of the street and finding the nearest ATM to withdraw all of the cash from.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

which will lock the card after 3 tries, so even if you are using your birth year chances are they are not going to guess it

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[–] Bubs12@lemm.ee 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My bank just gave me a random PIN number. Choosing my own was not an option.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'd forget that so hard.

I used to be able to memorize random sequences of numbers when I was young, but my brain doesn't do that tedious shit any more.

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Password manager is the way. It's recommended for all password related things anyway.

[–] techognito@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And good ones like bitwarden or keepass, not bad ones that get hacked almost yearly like lastpass

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] AirDevil@lemmy.world 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

NCC-1701 is the ship designator of the Enterprise from Star Trek

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This occurred to me right after I posted. But are there that many ST fans?

[–] CentrifugalChicken@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] AirDevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's pretty iconic and when you need to make a 4-digit pin quickly, it's something that stands out if you're a fan of the series. But as the heat map suggests, it may not be the most secure

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I’m a fan of the series but it would never occur to me to use that as a pin.

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[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 years ago (6 children)

damn, 0451 is blocked from view :-(

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

*******

thats what I see

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[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looks like there is a bright at 2846, which makes me laugh. My pin is safe, though, at least in this graph, so I guess I'm good.

[–] maegul@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I imagine many are common based on their geometrical shape on the number pad.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

For my main card it is from the pin I used to reload my Gauntlet save at the arcade, which was based on an easy to memorize joystick pattern used to select the pin on the cabinet

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That reddit post is a repost too. Actual source:

[–] e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

There is also the original 'original source'. It includes a version of the picture without the labels and the axis flipped.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 14 points 2 years ago

this is so much better. Always read the x axis before the y axis

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[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wanna know what these black dots are. Forbidden numbers? Numbers the mind cannot guess?

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just the least used. 9805 for example. Mines dark orange and I wasn't even trying, I just made it a physical pattern rather than a number combo.

EDIT: You know, I bet 9805 is gaining popularity in countries that use the Day/:Month/:Year format. Aug 9th 2005 is the birthday of a fair number of adults, now.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's text over mine, I have no idea how I did. Judging by surrounding stuff, I think I'm ok. The numbers are fairly random.

The bank gave me the code and I just memorized it, and never bothered to change it.

Anyone have a version of this that doesn't have anything overlayed on it?

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

If the bank is going to make me memorize both a unique 10+ character password and a 4 digit pin, of course I'm going to make a dead easy PIN.

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[–] GiveOver@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago

I spy 2112 in there 🤘🏻

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

White is most common and dark orange/grey are the least common? By how many standard deviations?

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Very valid question, but honestly I hardly think it matters much in this context. It highlights people's patterns, and apparently humans are the worst to ask for random numbers.

On a side note, what's up with the hotspot at 5049?

[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)
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[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Set all pins to 6806, got it.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There's a noticeable bias to using 10,11, or 12 as either the 1st and 2nd or the 3rd and 4th digits too, especially where the other two digits are lower. Like 11XX, or XX12. Wonder if there's a conscious reason for that or just a notable unconscious human bias for some number combinations?

[–] Shellbeach@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (4 children)

They are birthdate MM/DD or DD/MM

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[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

Here in Australia, post code is also common

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