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[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you havent before, have a look over the chicargo street medics handbook, there's some good info on pepper spray decontamination (though I'd avoid using anything but water to flush eyes)

also, avoid wearing makeup and contact lenses to events like this, tell your comrades

https://mutualaiddisasterrelief.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/kupdf.net_street-medic-handbook.pdf

First aid: When approaching people who have been ex- posed to chemical weapons, take a moment to call out “Who here has been sprayed?” People who are clearly making eye contact or who respond, “ooh, ooh me!” may not be your first priority. Re- member it is often the people who are unable to seek care that need it most. Once you’ve approached someone who has been pepper sprayed:

  1. Introduce yourself and get consent. Remem- ber the patient may be blinded and enraged.
  2. Immediately ask if the patient has asthma or is wearing contacts.
  3. Encourage calm and steady deep breathing. This will lessen panic.
  4. Move patient to an uncontaminated area if there is gas in the air. Ask for consent, then put hands on patient and guide them.
  5. Encourage coughing and spitting so he doesn’t swallow the chemicals.
  6. Calm, comfort, reassure, and educate about how the pain is temporary and we are extremely strong, and about the importance of decontamination before entering buildings. The most intense and painful symptoms are temporary and will go away within about 30 minutes with no treatment.
  7. Flush eyes with water, saline, salt water, or liquid antacid with water (LAW). Our LAW 52 recipe is 50% Maalox brand liquid antacid and 50% water. Put it in a squirt top water bottle. In the US we recommend Maalox because we know what the ingredients are. They may vary in other countries. Active ingredients to look for are magnesium hydroxide and sodium hydroxide. The anti-gas ingredient simethicone is not known to be dangerous or helpful. Alcohol, which some antacids contain, is bad for the eyes. Sorbitol, which is sugar alcohol, does not seem to cause harm. We recommend Maalox brand unflavored for best results, though some generics work as well. To flush eyes:
  8. Get patient lower than you – kneeling, sitting, or hunched over.
  9. Tilt head forward and to the side you are go- ing to flush.
  10. Hold eyes open for patient if you need to.
  11. Flush from the inside corner of the eye to the outside – be careful to not let it (and the chemicals it is moving) run across the face/into the other eye.
  12. Tilt head the other way and repeat flushing the other eye. You can also squirt LAW into patient’s mouth, have them swirl it around, and then spit it out.

RED FLAGS • Patient leaves the chemical weapons area and does not quickly breathe more easily. • Patient does not respond to care. • Unusual symptoms that do not quickly improve.

Decontamination

Avoid entering enclosed spaces (like your house) with contaminated clothing, and be aware of vul- nerable people who you might expose. • Take clothes off outside and put them into a plastic bag. Seal it and do not open until do- ing laundry. • Avoid touching anything (pets, furniture, car, phone, etc) until you have washed up. • Take a tepid shower – heat will irritate a new burn. Do not use soap that has peppermint in it: this will further irritate skin that has been exposed to chemicals. • Wash clothes immediately with detergents, several times if need be.

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That fucking reddit thread 🙄

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BigusDickus099 209 points 11 hours ago* "News 6 photojournalist DJ McCathran was feet away from the scuffle when it broke out.

McCathran recorded a woman using a megaphone during the demonstration.

“The only thing that I was told was that before the protest happened, and I was not there, they were told that they could not use the megaphone. That it was that it was not allowed, and so in the video that I shot, before the pepper spray came out, the lady was talking into a microphone that was blaring, and you could see also in that video that one of the protesters was also swinging a sign at one of the officer,” McCathran said. “So I’m assuming the one swinging the sign was the other guy arrested.”

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2024/05/11/2-arrested-others-pepper-sprayed-at-pro-palestine-event-at-orlandos-lake-eola-park/

[–]ongoldenwaves 46 points 11 hours ago* Swinging sign? She's fully beating him with it at .37 mark. And it's not just a piece of paper. Those things have a stick on them. Not only that but they've totally swarmed the police. Cops showed restraint only arresting 2 people here.

Be careful guys. They do bus people around the country during these protests to stir shit up. This crap will only get worse heading into November.

[–]chumbawumbacholula 35 points 10 hours ago Not trying to be cute, but genuinely curious what group is bussing people around to stir shit up?

[–]Ok-Context3530 11 points 8 hours ago I’ve read comments from people on Reddit claiming to have been hired to travel to protest so I think there is some merit to it.

SURE, JAN. Of course you have.

(Re: the sign - "those things have a stick on them!!! 🫨" someone further down in the replies pointed out that it was cardstock with a paint stirrer attached 😂)

Bugsy_Marino 67 points 10 hours ago* I too appreciate the zero context

Is this the same group where one member was beating a cop with their sign?

[–]ongoldenwaves 44 points 9 hours ago Yes. And they swarmed the cops and probably had megaphones in their faces as well. They just stir shit up for their Tik Tok pages.

[–]Bugsy_Marino 34 points 9 hours ago Yeah the first thing i noticed in the photo is that the cops are surrounded, doesn’t quite add up to what OP and others are trying to insinuate

[–]ongoldenwaves 13 points 8 hours ago Getting surrounded, having people swing at you, megaphones in the face...this is why we see cops in other cities with full on scary riot gear on in these protests. Then people accuse them of being intimidating. The OPD will never be this naive again. I'm sure they're feeling dumb for thinking they could handle this without batons, guns, shields, helmets. It only takes once for them to become jaded.

[–]Bugsy_Marino 14 points 8 hours ago Guarantee the same people in this photo are the ones complaining about the police being too militarized

Like congrats, you had cops wearing shorts and bicycle helmets show up and what happened? They got physically attacked and beaten. Don’t complain when they show up in full gear next time

[–]Affectionate_Oil9507 9 points 8 hours ago From what I've seen I have been impressed the way the bike cops who patrol lake Eola handle themselves. I have seen them look out for both civil protesters and bystanders. If I had to guess this was probably a justified reaction.

This is the most enthusiastic bootlicking I've seen in a while.

kombucha-disgust

[–] Des@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

ugggghhh fucking florida bootlicker

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Headline makes it very clear what happened and who was responsible. The media there is completely captured by police

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

for context, Lake Eola is the large lake / public park in downtown Orlando where they banned giving food to poor people. the climate of central florida is generally associated with not freezing to death, but the city's institutions are very hostile to the unhoused, among others. as i understand it, there used to be some shelters and other service providing organizations in parts of downtown orlando, but they were all shuttered and dismantled to appease developers starting at some point in the 90s and through today.

orlando is also a poster child for the periodic destruction of black neighborhoods and communities through infrastructure projects and withholding of basic services, starting back in the 1880s. a more recent example is the interstate highway system, in a story that is common to many cities in the US, the federal project was used to obliterate black owned communities. however, unlike many of those stories, in orlando, the federal government preferred to run the interstate highway west of downtown. the politically connected white capitalists pulled strings and had it moved. similar efforts by the same interests managed to have shelters, clinics and basic social services all shuttered in what remained of the isolated black communities downtown.

orlando is one of the biggest and most egregiously evil shitholes ever devised by the mind of men, but the media is tightly controlled to maintain the illusion that orlando is a family friendly place to vacation. and i'm sure it is if you stay in an all inclusive mouse-themed resort well outside of downtown. but at the edges, the shadows where the illumination of glittering spectacle don't quite reach, orlando is something else. hunched over, rent-burdened sub minimum wage service workers find pest-infested housing run by slumlords and police silently monitoring weekly evictions of entire families from substandard housing because they couldn't come up with $1200 to pay for an SRO with no kitchen or fridge. orlando is a social murder machine fueled by the illusion that it is anything else.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

if you stay in an all inclusive mouse-themed resort well outside of downtown. but at the edges...

If somebody made a RobCop-like miniseries about a dystopia with amusement parks - the political response might surprise some people. The chuds might love the series. They entirely miss the satire and they see it as celebrating fascism and they love the cops beating and killing the homeless. Libs might hate the series because they get offended that American is portrayed as a dystopia with amusement parks.