Firefox stays winning.
Whatever happened to Netscape?
this post was submitted on 11 May 2024
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It became Firefox
Neat
It is literally firefox
And here I thought I couldn't love Firefox even more
On February 23, 1998, Netscape created the Mozilla Organization to co-ordinate the development of the Mozilla Application Suite.
When AOL (Netscape's parent) drastically scaled back its involvement with Mozilla Organization, the Mozilla Foundation was launched on July 15, 2003, to ensure Mozilla could survive without Netscape.
AOL assisted in the initial creation of the Mozilla Foundation, transferring hardware and intellectual property to the organization, employed a three-person team for the first three months of its existence to help with the transition, and donated $2 million to the foundation over two years.
Netscape was the sacrifice for Firefox. In the before times, there was the problem of slow and bloated browsers before memory was plentiful (and easy to download😉) so Mozilla created Phoenix which was a lightweight no frills browser that crashed every time I tried to open a jpeg with it, but other than that it was awesome and so much faster than IE or Netscape. Then due to a lawsuit, or threat of one, they changed the name to Firefox which stayed winning until about 3.5 when Chrome started really taking over in speed and abilities. :abe-simpson:
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Firefox ftw.
but you're missing Gamer Chrome (OperaGX), which is very sad
chinese too
I hate the sound effects that it has enabled by default.
Using firefox is praxis
Firefox gang
I've been using "Not Chrome" for 20 years and I'm not changing anytime soon. Always has been reliable for me. Though I wish they didn't change their icon.
How did this happen? Didn’t different browsers used to be, like, different?
10-15 years ago cross-browser javascript and rendering compatibility was a nightmare for web developers and chromium was free, popular/winning, and legitimately very good so it made sense to standardize on it rather than independently develop inferior engines
but now that it monopolizes internet browsing of course it has started to bloat and suck. let a hundred browser engines bloom
also i would argue that not enough was done to oppose scope creep in web standards. i don't agree that your web browser should be a platform for complicated applications that do more than deliver content and receive posts. even flash was a bridge too far.
yup true facts
also we didn't quite know google was evil yet
They said they weren't evil! Who were we to know they'd lie about it, what are they, the Chinese?? This is just like communism
I channeled a redditor for this comment
make sure you perform a thorough banishing to get that spirit out of your head
don't worry I just thought too many thoughts about how china stay winning and it fled in a seething rage
the power of socialism with chinese characteristics knows no bounds
When did Opera become "chinese"?
Here's a quote from the Wikipedia page:
In 2016, Opera was acquired by an investment group led by a Chinese consortium, the consortium included several Chinese companies such as Kunlun Tech and Qihoo 360.
Android Not Chrome would always make my entire phone freeze, apparently many people have that issue. I haven't had that problem with Android Chinese Chrome so far.
But Not Chrome is still the best by far on computer of course.
I love Android Not Chrome. You can install uBlock Origin on it, which kicks ass
Apparently there are pretty big security problems with it?
I just learned this like last week, but haven't had the will to leave.
what security issues? genuinely curious, I no longer use it but havent heard anything particularly out of ordinary
I know it used to have a certain reputation/one specific issue but that's been fixed for years
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Yes I use it on my tablet and it works great, but it breaks my phone for some reason.
I had times where the android Not Chrome would freeze on my phone. I turned off an extension that adds a panel for more buttons and the freezes disappeared. Idk if this will be relevant to your problem since it's your whole phone that froze but maybe you're using some problematic extensions or you may have had some settings that caused it.
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if you have to use a chrome, crypto chrome has very good ad and tracker blocking built in at least. you can turn off the crypto nonsense
The maker of brave is a homophobe though, so I wouldn't suggest it
That would also rule out javascript can't use anything anymore 😭
Not in the slightest. I actually use Safari over Chrome, that’s how sick I am of it.
Safari is Apple Chrome.
Would be funny if it was, but it is a different engine than both chrome and firefox.
It uses WebKit, which Blink (Chrome's engine) was forked from.
I actually didn’t know that, good to know that chrome is actually safari.
If you keep going back, safari is actually Konqueror.
What am WebKit?
A fork of KHTML, KDE's rendering engine.
I know, I was being cheeky ;3
You forgot one option: Librewolf - better firefox
Meh, it's just Firefox with a config applied out of the box and some new branding. They don't really patch anything of importance out of Firefox, pretty much all of their patches are just changes for their branding/styling.
You can find the config that comes out of the box here: https://codeberg.org/librewolf/settings/src/branch/master/librewolf.cfg which appears to just be https://github.com/arkenfox/user.js/blob/master/user.js with a couple of extra things added like Brave's query stripping list.
Librewolf also avoids adding AI bullshit that firefox is planning :)))
Which you will most likely be able to disable with a policy.json just like Librewolf does with Pocket and other Mozilla services. I personally rather just build Firefox from Mozilla's sources and use my own configuration rather than having to put trust into some third-party to do that for me. Though I understand that is definitely not everyone's cup of tea, so I guess Librewolf is good enough for the majority of people. Though I'd be weary because a lot of the settings Librewolf enables (namely the things under privacy.resistFingerprinting) break a lot of websites which some people may not want to deal with. In that case, I'd just take Arkenfox's configuration and remove all that stuff from it and call it a day.
no more half measures walter
Firefox is more like Chrome’s little sibling, tagging along and going to all the same places. I wish it would grow up and decide for itself where to go and how to get there. I’m hopeful with the Manifest V3 resistance that this is changing.
It doesn't really have a choice, unfortunately. Any little way that Firefox deviates from Chrome basically just breaks stuff, because Google have successfully forced through their will about every web standard ever.
that's kind of the point of a standard. the problem is when a single stakeholder has such outsize influence.
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