Thank you to the voters that said the dbzer0 posters are cool, though someone said something like "I never noticibly noticed any user from that comm" and I feel personally affronted
hexbear
Now that the old Hexbear fork has been officially abandoned, this community will be used as a space for meta-discussion on the site itself.
I noticed you and thought it was weird someone from hexbear made an account on a different instance
Yeah only really have noticed the admin, who continues to show they are an ass
I came over here when /r/piracy moved and at first I was confused by hexbear. Over time I've come to embrace the ideas and movement and I appreciate the discussions on here. Sorry if I've frustrated any of you over the past year, I've really had a shift in perspective coming from a ballot box liberal background.
I’ve been totally uninvolved, but it appears the mods, rather than the users, have been the most inflammatory. We welcome all good-faith users, such as yourself
coming from a ballot box liberal background.
That’s where the vast majority of us came from. Really where else could most of us have come from? East Germany? The Moon?
that's how I found the chapo sub back in the day
I think I said something vaguely socialist and someone said "go back to chapo" and I was like "what the fuck is a chapo"
wow I guess you found enough wrongthink to ban them, huh?
We draw the line at DM harassment of any kind. Calling a moderator a "hypocritical PoS" in DMs for banning them for outright reactionary behavior necessitates a site wide ban.
It would be hypocritical to do otherwise.
So much for the tolerant left
I'm just yanking your chain, fuck them.
They still don't understand how that's an issue
that fucking rules. thank you for making my day.
It looks like we won't be
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divided by a zero.
That would make you infinite tho.
No. You can't divide by zero and get infinity. x / 0 = NaN, it can't be defined, dividing by zero is impossible.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero
Probs skim a wiki page before trying to correct someone :) conventions are just conventions. All maths is arbitrary (e.g. n^0 being defined as 1 is so nice patterns around power addition and such hold at 0 but "n times n zero times" is sort of a nonsense question if the operation is taken at it's most naive and direct interpretation)
Also not a number isn't a mathematical construct, it's a value computer software returns to handle edge cases in a predictable fashion.
I now vote for defederation due to this pedantic response. Division by zero is undefined under the rational number set which is what pretty much anyone on earth will think of. It does not reach the same value as you take the limit from either side. It's not a convention it is an axiom. Math is not arbitrary, it must all be proven n^0=1 is not a convention, it is proven in many different ways.
division is not defined for 0. it can yield multiple values, any value at all, explode to infinity, etc.. but even that statement depends on taking a limit because you can't actually divide by zero. you break basic algebraic laws if you try to include it. it's such a essential fact of algebra that you only name an element of a ring 0 if it's the additive identity and always multiplies to zero. when you extend such a set to a field, you define a division operation as multiplication by the multiplicative inverse except for the additive identity because such an operation is never well-defined.
your Wikipedia link is discussing limits. limits are only well-defined when you can prove that every step of the limiting process is well-defined and the overall sequence converges absolutely. if I just write 5/0, there's no sequence - you can't say the limit diverges to infinity or resolves to a specific number because there is no limiting sequence to begin with. you need a function like sin(x)/x to produce a limit such that you know for certain that 0/0 in this very particular case is 0 (ie the discontinuity at 0 is removable).
if you're interested in this, you're looking for ring theory. a lot of textbooks will give you the basis to prove that division by zero produces inconsistent results for any field - this is why it's one of the field axioms.
Also not a number isn't a mathematical construct
I know that, I was using it in the literal sense. x / 0 = not a number. It isn't a number. It is not something defined mathematically. I could just as easily have said undefined, N/A, or anything else.
conventions are just conventions. All maths is arbitrary
you cannot take an object and divide it into 0 pieces. The expression is nonsensical to begin with.
Have you considered Wikipedia tho
Good, the db0 mod and admin can stay banned while we still can interact with the users.
Glad to hear it. I may have made an ass of myself on here a few times, but a few patient hexbears showed me what I needed to get it. If you defederated, I'd have to make an account and convince the mods I know better now.
Almost everyone here was a cringe liberal at some point in the lives. Most of us (myself included) only found the light around the time of Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbyn elections.
masterful bit
wow so authoritarian that you'd respect a vote smdh redfash tankies
Oh kewl awesome
What was the vote count?
e: from the vote thread it was 117:47 in favor of staying federated. thanks @Antisocial_Socialist@hexbear.net and @the_itsb@hexbear.net!
I believe it was something like 117 to remain federated vs like ~40 to defederate. I would have to recount but it was overwhelmingly in favor of staying federated.
I also agree with the other users here that the funniest and probably most productive option is leaving their admins banned while staying federated and letting them make the next move is the best and funniest option.
peculiar!
The right move
Man i had no idea there was gonna be a vote like this today. I was just talking bout the 'bear over there too. Pardon me for being out of the loop but what happened? Mods from hexbear kicked up a fuss? From db0? Can someone point me to the drama?
I'm not being critical of you here, but I've seen a few people now mention they didn't know any of this was going on. I sometimes miss big struggle sessions and wonder how in the hell that happened, me being the modlog-reading extremely online dork that I am, so I get it. But in this case, there has been a voting thread pinned for over 2 days on the topic. Do people just not look at the pinned posts?
Gotta be honest I have no idea what's going on. I don't know why I voted in the other thread. I was just trying to fit in 😢
electoralism fails again smh
Death to America
We live to see another day!
Honestly I have never seen as many dbzer0 accounts here as I have in the past week.