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Image is of coup supporters in Niamey, waving the flag of Niger and Russia.


While the coup in Niger is an obvious reason for this megathread's subject, the inspiration to focus here rather than somewhere else in the world this week came from @solaranus@hexbear.net's comment here.

Anyway, as a quick introduction to Niger - the country won independence from the French in 1960 and has since been in an alternating cycle of military governments and more democratic arrangements. In 2010, a junta took over the country from the military junta already ruling it, and then successfully transitioned the country to democracy within a year. President Issoufou was elected and then re-elected in 2016. President Bazoum was democratically elected in 2021, and has just been overthrown last week. General Tchiani looks to be the new head of state.

Like many countries that were previously colonies, outright colonialism by its imperial country has been replaced by neocolonialism by that same country. France issues their currency, thus allowing France to do what the US does with its dollar around the world but in miniature. The country is incredibly poor, surviving on subsidence agriculture, with much of its exports being minerals like gold and uranium, which many children under the age of 14 are employed in extracting. Also like other previously French colonies, the new guys in charge appear to be flipping them the bird, with Burkina Faso and Mali relatively recently asking them to fuck off. It is unlikely to be a coincidence that this is happening as internal dissent inside France itself continues to boil. Given the Russian flags being waved and Putin's promises to supply free grain to some African countries (and though Niger isn't mentioned, Burkina Faso and Mali notably are), one imagines that Russia also might have a hand in things.

Burkina Faso's president, Traore, has been talking with Mali and Guinea, and now Niger - all ruled by military governments - and asking if they're interested in federation, with Mali showing some interest. Traore follows in the tradition of Thomas Sankara, and has appointed a Prime Minister who is similarly aligned. Traore has recently met with a Chinese representative and has firmly aligned himself with Russia, saying that Burkina Faso has "one and the same outlook" on building a new world order, saying:

"Russia made great sacrifices to liberate Europe and the world from Nazism during World War II. We have the same history,"

"We are the forgotten peoples of the world. And we are here now to talk about the future of our countries, about how things will be tomorrow in the world that we are seeking to build, and in which there will be no interference in our internal affairs,"

"However, a slave who does not fight [for his freedom] is not worthy of any indulgence. The heads of African states should not behave like puppets in the hands of the imperialists. We must ensure that our countries are self-sufficient, including as regards food supplies, and can meet all of the needs of our peoples. Glory and respect to our peoples; victory to our peoples! Homeland or death!"


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

This week's first update is here in the comments.

No update on Wednesday because I am still busy.

Friday's update is here in the comments.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Did nothing happen while I was asleep, or is everyone just waiting for the new news mega?

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

I'm also waiting for the new news mega. hopefully whoever the jackass is that posts these things gets it up sooner rather than later

[–] ElHexo@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] EmotionalSupportLancet@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Interesting article.

In hindsight, do you think preparing for Ukraine is why Russia left Armenia high and dry last time?

[–] ElHexo@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think Russia, like China, sees a lot of win-win opportunities in the Caucasus and Middle East - a more stable Eurasia would benefit everyone in the region, and severely impair the ability of the US to throw their weight around even outside the region.

You can see the importance of the region by how hard the US has tried to destabilise it since the 1950s

That sounds reasonable. More of a “long term stability” as the top priority thing?

It just really sucks that Azerbaijan is openly genocidal (like for real, not what libs say about Russia) and nobody is doing anything to stop it.

[–] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

@SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net I’m going to start posting all the good slops at the Lemmygrad megathread if the new news mega keeps getting delayed.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago

I'm sorry but we had to reject your application. We needed a Ukraine-Russia-Niger-Burkina Faso-Mali expert, not a Ukraine-Russia-Niger-Burkina Faso-Libya expert.

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lmao stockholm pride is running nato pr by trying to distance themselves from pro-kurdish and anti-erdogan flags and signs at saturdays pride parade.

This sucks lol, worse than usual.

https://medyanews.net/erdogan-effigy-resurfaces-with-rainbow-flag-at-stockholm-pride-turkey-condemns-heinous-act/

This seems like a decent english summary, though it doesnt include statements from the pride org itself about it.

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

Specifically though they are trying to revise things by claiming that its all private individuals who have decided to do this on their own, and not a very public and explicitly planned protest by the rojava committees.

[–] Flinch@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

There's a kitten in a Russian position in Patrick Lancaster's newest report. Say hello to Machine Gun lenin-cat

Not shown are the two other cats, Lazy Eye and Plumber.

[–] chay@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 years ago

On Lemmy.ml there's a bunch of libs loving Ukrainian soldiers with cats and in the comments is a mess lmao

[–] Stylistillusional@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Patrick running is me when I shit my pants and all the kids on the playground are laughing at me.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

He runs funny because he has to carry his massive cojones in his pants.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm kind of surprised that we've got liberals in other threads about ukraine but not here yet

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago

It'll happen once we get a new newsmega. This one is likely too old to be on all

[–] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

They’re too scared to come in. It would take a brave liberal like myself to start posting here.

[–] SimulatedLiberalism@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

Also they’re still doing their probing attacks. Once they have identified the weak points, they will begin the full assault.

We can all agree that the news mega is our Kherson, where in the event of retreat this is where we stand and fight, right?

(Actually Stalingrad is more appropriate but Kherson is more topical)

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

https://twitter.com/rapmusic/status/1688263038686609408?t=Oeg1ANy4rYmkIynYHg2PFQ&s=19

🎺🎺🎺🎺

Gonna make the Hardy Boyz entrance the official anthem of the Communist States of America.

[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 2 years ago

never wished something was real more

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you aren't getting lifted 10ft in the air at the height of your speech I'm not listening

Also, link without tracker:

https://nitter.net/rapmusic/status/1688263038686609408

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[–] notceps@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Since we are federated time to do this:

I'll scream it again the US alone has so far given 100bn USD to Ukraine, it'd take 37bn USD a year to end world hunger. I'm also sure that if you are a ghoul and don't care about that 100bn in investments would have a far bigger return on investment if they I dunno fixed their failing infrasctructure, used it to offer free healthcare, free education or literally anything.

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[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And remember everyone, the Soviet Union did a bad thing once therefore it is correct to put them alongside Nazi Germany. The United States, on the other hand, might have done some "oopsies" but they did it on bad people who do even worse things.

[–] Cigarette_comedian@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

This is so true, literally facts, 100% no cap so-true

[–] Eldungeon2@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

https://www.rt.com/russia/580868-world-without-russia-how-hundreds/

The Russian sovereign citizen, USSR was never dissolved or some shit,. So much better than our Q conspiracy.

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The accumulated resentment has resulted in the formation of ‘Citizens of the USSR’ – a radical organization convinced that the Soviet Union continues to legally exist, while considering the government of the Russian Federation to be illegitimate.

These beliefs lead to illegal behavior. The adherents of the movement refuse to pay taxes, don’t comply with Russian laws and don’t want to live according to the principles of a capitalist society. They also don’t pay utility bills or honor previously obtained bank loans.

ussr-cry

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[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

every russian state post rurik is, in fact, illegal

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Logging back on after a week of touching grass to find a 1000 plus comment news thread ohnoes

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

tl;dr of this week's megathread is war might engulf the entirety of West Africa.

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

no thanks to you. Coulda used your help but noooo you had to have grass. Do you know how much shit posting I have had to do to cover for you? I cant even stop now. I'm shit posting right now because I'm stuck in the habit. This right here: Shit posting.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Pinch it off and flush comrade. I'm ready to take my spot on the toilet of ideology.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm scared to check in on The Adam Friedland Show since the Niger news dropped

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why doesn't Obama simply invite the leaders of Niger to Martha's Vineyard for a beer summit?

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

more like martha's lanyard amirite

[–] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Because they don’t actually have a winery there

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[–] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

i hope we are all ready for the big influx of liberals that are going to inevitably make their way here marx-doomer

[–] MultigrainCerealista@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whenever someone comes here and becomes outraged about Russia we need to heavily quote the Muad’dib from Frank Herbert’s Dune and we heavily upvote those quotes as though the person made an excellent point.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

My name is a killing word

[–] chay@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] elgonzalors@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So another proxy war in the imperial periphery is about to happen doomer

https://nitter.net/sentdefender/status/1688300764983115776

[–] ImOnADiet@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So does the Nigerian senate have 0 power? I thought they told the president to go pound sand, and from what I've read there's no way ECOWAS could do this without Nigeria, especially if Algeria is posturing that it might help alongside Mali and Burkina Faso

[–] Kaputnik@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

From what I've found it sounds like the president of Nigeria has control over foreign policy, but the senate is required to consent to any treaties that are signed with foreign countries. Outside of that the president has final say and a military intervention would probably be under his jurisdiction without requiring the consent of the senate.

I don't know if that totally accurate, I'm not from Nigeria, that's just based on a quick reading

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

Chris Christie was on CNN this morning talking about how he saw massacred civilians in Ukraine done by Russian forces hasan-ok-dude

[–] edge@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

guy who thinks that Ukrainian casualties are less than 10.000 people but is also convinced that Russia is actively committing genocide

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[–] Redcat@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

asking someone if countries should have the freedom to ally whoever they wish and host troops if they want to, and then showing them a fake news reel of CNN reporting on chinese troops being invited to the US-Mexico border

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago
[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Another day, another Ukrainian Nazi fucker saying shit on TV while literally every shit lib still pretends it isn't happening. Looks like someone is trying to get one up on fucking Podolyak lol.

r/sino Twitter

Russians are Asians,” says Danilov, Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine

He explained his underestimation by the fact that Ukrainians differ from Russians ... in humanity.❗️

“I take them easy, but they are Asians. They have a completely different culture, vision. Our key difference from them is humanity,” said the clown.

The Russians don't even have to try to create propaganda when you have these people saying shit like this. Literally go on TV and tell everyone the difference between Ukrainian and Russians/Asians is humanity lol.

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