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A decision by the Ukrainian government to suspend consular services for military-aged men living abroad has left some men uncertain about their futures.

Ukraine has canceled its consular services for all military-aged men living abroad. This means all Ukrainian men between the ages of 18 and 60 who reside outside of the country are currently not able to renew their passports or receive other important government documents such as marriage certificates.

he-admit-it

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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 80 points 1 year ago (1 children)

between the ages of 18 and 60

Only winners conscript 60 year olds. We will soon march on Moscow. Slava Ukrani.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey now, NATO tanks are in Moscow at this very moment!

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

60 year old patriots in control. Believe in the endsieg.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How long until the EU regimes begin deporting refugees right back to the trenches?

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Give it a month or so I'd say

Strong rhetoric is boost for Ukraine reinforcement drive but it is not clear by which mechanism émigrés could be sent back

I'm guessing this will be "Dudes with guns who make you"

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turns out it's kinda difficult to get people to fight for their country when they don't really feel like the country is worth fighting for.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

imagine being pushed to "fight for your country" when you don't even live there anymore, the conflict is futile and driven by foreign powers, and your home country is pushing you to do it by taking away bureaucratic services.

I don't know how much louder I could say, "blow me."

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Sacrifice your life for neo-liberal austerity and corruption", yeah I don't think I will

[–] Voidance@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

One of those weird things about the Ukraine war that has gone totally unremarked in Western media, the fact that Ukraine rounded up most of its male population into poorly trained Volkssturm units that are basically just cannon fodder for Russian artillery

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've seen it remarked upon in some lib circles... As a positive

They believe any Ukranian male of fighting age who attempts to leave or dodge the draft is a coward complicit in genocide and should be either forced to the front or imprisoned for life

I wish this was a joke yea

[–] ItsPequod@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

"Dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori"

WW1 bros are so back

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's gonna be interesting seeing how having a failed state right on its border will affect the european union (I'm not talking about the uk)

[–] Voidance@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

Somewhere for the CIA to export drugs and terrorism from probably

[–] D61@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

lathe-of-heaven Time:

In about a month there will be articles talking about how residents of EU countries where Ukrainians fled to would really REALLY like them to go back home now.

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

there's already been an article about Poland like this posted here

EDIT: found it, from 10 days ago:

Reuters: Poland ready to help Ukraine to get military-age men back, minister says

Poland is ready to help Ukraine in getting military-age male citizens to return and help their home country in fighting in the war against Russia, Defence Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz said on Wednesday.

The Ukrainian government announced rules on Wednesday under which passports for military-age men can be issued only inside the country instead of foreign diplomatic missions.

As a result, men aged between 18 and 59 living abroad will be unable to renew expiring passports or obtain new ones.

"I think many Poles are outraged when they see young Ukrainian men in hotels and cafes, and they hear how much effort we have to make to help Ukraine," he said, without giving any details on how Poland will help.

"Any support is possible," Kosiniak-Kamysz said about how Poland would respond if Kyiv asked for help in bringing home those who may lose their right to stay in Poland once their passports expire.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Too much passive voice and a positive spin to "help Ukrainian citizens return home" instead of "why aren't they at home fighting for their country?"

I'm thinking something more along the lines of a "White Feather" movement.

[–] mushroom@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

hard to imagine a future for ukraine right now that isn't fucked for the next 15+ years at least. depressing to think that even after the war started they could've ended it a few months in, from a position of relative strength, if it weren't for fucking boris johnson and the western MIC

[–] someone@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

I'm looking forward to asking all the military-age Ukrainian-descended-and-proud yellow-blue-flag-waving Canadians around me when they're going to Ukraine fight for their fatherland.

This is great news! The hand of the market has spoken! Now better, smarter, private companies can fill the gap in services the state no longer provides. So when does Biden get his "mission accomplished" banner?

Joking aside, do you think he'll get the nobel peace prize poshumously?