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[–] edge@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

tbf it might be about how much more of a disaster the 20th century would have been without the Soviets.

Edit: Rough summary (I watched at 2x speed and didn’t focus too much on the specifics): Trotsky takes power from Kerensky by electoralism, the Whites win the civil war ousting Trotsky then invade Atatürk’s Turkey for some reason, Russia descends into a fascist state under Kolchak and Germany turns left instead.

So literally just Russia and Germany swapping roles in WW2.

“Kolchak turns into a dictator. A wave of antisemitism engulfs the country and thousands of Jewish families are exiled, or worse.”

He also says

“What would a Ukraine that never experienced Stalin’s Holodomor look like?”

despite earlier mentioning famines during Kolchak’s reign. He did mention the White Terror though and said it was much worse than the Red Terror.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

“What would a Ukraine that never experienced Stalin’s Holodomor look like?”

same-picture

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do the Soviets losing in Russia make the SDP not betray the left in Germany?

[–] edge@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s barely gone in to, this is pretty much it:

“In our timeline right-wing movements owed a lot their existence due to the fear of rising Bolshevikism [sic]. But with a dictatorial Russia, that is highly unlikely.”

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

'Look what you made me do' but a history book

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

What no materialism does to a mf

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

This is the same as online fascists going "why I left the left" because someone was mean to them online

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

lol, lmao.

Thinking the bolsheviks created fascism by being so scary

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Its alternatehistoryhub so most likely not but I have ~~cope~~ hope

[–] edge@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

From the little I’ve watched of them, they seem like standard libs really. And this video lines up with that IMO. (See my edited comment for a summary.)

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

IDK, Russia becomes the birthplace of fascism? Nazis still take power because Germany's situation hasn't changed? WW2 lasts longer and nukes are dropped in Japan, Russia, Afghanistan, Germany, etc.? American unipolarity begins in 1950 instead of 1990? It would probably suck real bad.

IDK, Russia becomes the birthplace of fascism? Nazis still take power because Germany's situation hasn't changed? WW2 lasts longer and nukes are dropped in Japan, Russia, Afghanistan, Germany, etc.? American unipolarity begins in 1950 instead of 1990? It would probably suck real bad.

Wasn't it the master of pogroms, Russia?

I feel like, in this situation, it's either socialism or barbarism for it... that being said, indeed, we'll prbly see a right-wing bloodbath that'll make leftist infighting look like child's play...

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 27 points 1 year ago

The nazis won?

[–] stevatoo@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I have this problem but IRL. One of my coworkers is an r/imaginarymaps power poster with slather ukraney and two-state solution takes.

I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if their stuff's been posted in the dunk tank before.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

To quote that blowhard Christopher Hitchens: "The name for fascism would be a Russian word"

[–] Brickardo@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

The axis would've definitely won