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[–] WhatAnOddUsername@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Probably just dysphoric enough to justify a spoiler tag, just in caseSo. Unlike everyone else in this thread, I'm in an annoying questioning state where I'm not about transitioning (mtf) just yet. There's still a lot about my gender identity that I'm just not sure about.

  • I feel like I'm not married to the term "man", certainly not as much as a lot of men seem to be. Yet, when I see things online attacking "men" in general in a way that I see as being a little bit unfair, it's hard not to internalize that. So, for example, a recent meme about men being more dangerous than bears. It's not that I don't understand the reasoning behind it or that I'm "offended" by it exactly. But it's hard not to be a little sad at the fact that, insofar as I am perceived as male, I am by default perceived as an unlovable and dangerous subhuman monster. I could take this as evidence that I don't want to be a man and that I should transition, but is "not wanting to be a man" enough to pull the trigger on a medical transition? It feels like I should be running TOWARDS something I want, not just AWAY from something I hate.

  • There are a lot of boxes on the "Incel" checklist that describe me, e.g. loneliness, lack of deep friendships or romantic partnerships, spending far too much time on the internet. When I read advice for guys in this kind of situation, it tends to be very similar, obvious-but-annoying-and-difficult things, e.g. taking care of your health, introspection, journaling, meditation, finding social hobbies, etc. When I read this lists, I get a bit annoyed and exhausted. And yet, it becomes a bit more bearable if I think of myself as something other than a man, e.g. "Get a hobby" feels like scolding cliche self-help advice, yet "Get a hobby, but trans" feels less bad for some weird unexplainable reason (even if I don't actually do anything different).

  • A lot of discussions I can find about trans identity talk, explicitly or implicitly, about how a person feels "inside", e.g. what gender do they feel like they are? I don't know if I feel like anything in particular. When I'm filling out forms and it has the option, I usually answer "nonbinary" or something similar. I was playing an online game where you can customize your appearance, and the default avatar was a featureless, not particularly gendered, cute looking cartoon person. I tried making it look like how I actually look, but then I realized, "Wait, I kind of prefer the featureless androgynous humanoid cartoon -- that's closer to what I actually feel like". If you asked me how I imagine myself inside, the honest and silly answer is that I feel like a "Scrimblo Bimblo"-type genderless cartoon/video game character. I'm not 100% sure if "woman" is the right label for me, but I'm not totally against it either -- it just feels odd. I will say, when I see happy women, either alone or in relationships, I feel a tinge of envy, and that strikes me as a sign that I prefer the idea of being a woman more than the idea of being a man. I keep thinking to myself "I can't transition because I'd be an ugly woman", which I am well aware is a classic thing for trans women to tell themselves before transitioning. The prospect of medically transitioning and still identifying as nonbinary is... frightening, but fear seems like a bad reason not to do it.

At this point, I've been ruminating on this so long that it feels like I'm being annoying and indecisive, like I want you to make the decision for me. I realize that's a silly thing to want (but, like, could you? Because that would be GREAT!) so perhaps the best I can hope for is that writing this is a useful exercise for me.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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I was playing an online game where you can customize your appearance, and the default avatar was a featureless, not particularly gendered, cute looking cartoon person. I tried making it look like how I actually look, but then I realized, “Wait, I kind of prefer the featureless androgynous humanoid cartoon – that’s closer to what I actually feel like”. If you asked me how I imagine myself inside, the honest and silly answer is that I feel like a “Scrimblo Bimblo”-type genderless cartoon/video game character.

Then go for that if you want to? You aren't alone. Things like nullification surgeries are a thing people get (seen multiple people on the agender subreddit mention it), for example of evidence of the demand.

I’m not 100% sure if “woman” is the right label for me, but I’m not totally against it either – it just feels odd.

I think a lot of people weird weird using that label when their body is so masculine. I'm open to the possibility that I'd start accepting that label if people started gendering me that way, but currently I'm not really interest in the label.

The prospect of medically transitioning and still identifying as nonbinary is… frightening, but fear seems like a bad reason not to do it.

Was something I dealt with as well. Made me feel like a bit of an imposter during my HRT appointment. I intend to come out to my immediate family (already out to my brother and cousin) before HRT starts to have significant effects, but I'm not really sure what I'm coming out as. So I plan to just come out as "someone taking HRT".

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

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But it's hard not to be a little sad at the fact that, insofar as I am perceived as male, I am by default perceived as an unlovable and dangerous subhuman monster

That's not what the meme is about or saying lol, it's pointing out the fact that to most women, the average man is probably more dangerous than a bear. Patriarchal violence. I do think the meme is a bit un-nuanced maybe, like a product of liberal "feminism", but it makes a good point.

but is "not wanting to be a man" enough to pull the trigger on a medical transition? It feels like I should be running TOWARDS something I want, not just AWAY from something I hate.

Sure, why not? You don't have to do anything super drastic about it either. Honestly early in my transition, my identity was mostly defined by the fact that I'd die on testosterone. I did not want that, I did not want to be a man. I didn't immediately become a woman as a result, either.

Also if "get a hobby, but trans" feels better than man-advice to you, well =)

If you asked me how I imagine myself inside, the honest and silly answer is that I feel like a "Scrimblo Bimblo"-type genderless cartoon/video game character.

Sounds valid as fuck to me, perhaps you are some nifty variety of nonbinary or grayish/agender femme? Many cool possibilities!! It does seem to me like, above all else "man" is not for you ❤

It kinda bugs me that the transition/gender discussion is so binary, I think it's causing a lot of trouble for you.

[–] WhatAnOddUsername@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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It kinda bugs me that the transition/gender discussion is so binary, I think it's causing a lot of trouble for you.

Probably. But I also feel a bit paralyzed by the sheer variety of options available. I'm fortunate to live in what might be one of the least transphobic parts of the world, where medical transition is (at least partly) covered by public health care, and I'm failing to take advantage of it as a result of my own fear.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

spoilerY'know, choice paralysis regarding gender is kinda funny honestly c: But also take your time you know, the priority should be your comfort, in all respects.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Unjust Depths 10.1 discussionHoma is in fact the saddest and dorkiest lesbian. I just like her, I don't have to justify it cause if you know, you know. I love long, observational stream-of-consciousness bullshit cause I'm pretentious as fuck, and following Homa close to the shoulder from waking up in the morning to doing her dock job in the central tower is so fucking cool, mmmmm look at all this introspection and flavour, I posted it before but the scene of Homa feeling small and helpless whilst gazing out from the tram onto the massive central tower is fuckin brilliant. No notes.

It's a bonus too, if it gives us stuff like her imagining taking the civilian Volker at her work out to fight "bad guys", lol lmao. Homa has mech brainworms too, and I support it.

When she sees the "Pandora's Box" docking at her goofy dockworker job, I practically screamed. SAVE HER, TRANSBIAN COMMUNISTS!!! TRANSBIAN COMMUNISTS SAVE HER!!!!!!! I gotta say, reintroducing the Brigand by having it arrive to someone fresh is such a good move, this whole chapter fucks.

A workaday cat like Homa envied even the relatively small freedom of working on a ship.

LOOK at how fucking juicy her narration is, she is so fucking CHARACTERISED!!! Even when she is simping Ulyana, which critical support, lol. She IS IN FACT dorky and Ulyana knows it, which funny enough I find Ulyana's flirty nature very enjoyable compared to a Jayansakar, for instance. Idk what the difference is.

Homa lived 2500 meters below sea level of a scarred world without justice or peace.

Oh I knowwwwww the Depths are so Unjust to you, it isn't riiight ✨ This chapter has so many good lines, I didn't have much criticism for the prose and narration of prior chapters but I think the standard has risen for Anthology Two, ngl. Mostly you would get little specific scenes of stuff that would offer insight into whoever the camera was on, like Norn in the shower onboard the Antenora, or Ulyana and Aaliyah drinking together after the Gorge. I dunno if we've had this long an establishing "tracking shot" since Murati was introduced and I'm so here for it. Atomised, lonely, gay gay cat lady, the claws of the Imbrian empire having separated and distanced her from her own people.

I have asked funny leftist lady and she agreed that yes, the quality of just line-to-line writing, the prose and similes and general narration, has all seen a huge bump in quality since I last checked in circa 9.6 and Interlude II. Shit was already pretty good, but I fuckin drank this in and it gave me joy.

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yapping about queer book stuff, brief mentions of kink thingsIt feels weird that there are a bunch of hyper-specific interpersonal things in Unjust Depths that I apparently just cannot wrap my brain around, at all. I have to either give it credit for challenging my stupid-ass narrow view, because most sapphic fiction cannot challenge me with unfamiliar things ths way, or alternatively I have to give it shit for rudely bullying my tiny little Autistic brain and making me embarrass myself.

Maybe once in a blue moon when I'm reading one of those trans litfic novels, I'll stumble across something that blows my monocle off for a second and I need to stop and comprehend - the weird HIV-quasi-pregnancy-kinkplay in Detransition, Baby is a good example - but it's usually stuff I'll get befuddled over for like, an hour or two before internalising it and rolling with it. No, I did not consider that Wendy would turn things around on her weird eggy clients and make the sex a forcefem thing, when reading Little Fish, but sure right, why not? The ex-Mennonite shit was at least as odd as that.

Somehow though, Unjust Depths has thrown me way more curveballs in its runtime than probably all of those goofy books combined, and in the stupidest little places. Behold, this Autistic brain; it cannot fucking parse butch/femme as a concept! Real top quality grey matter, here.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

sad posting, some negativity about being trans (directed inward you all are amazing), fears of transphobiaI'm just so sad and confused. It hurts. I'm so jealous of women. I hate my body. I wish I was born a girl. I'd never feel this way. I'd have other issues, obviously, but idk I just think I'd be happier with my body/socially. But I don't want to be trans :cri: it seems so hard. I wish I could just be cis. Why can't I be okay with being a guy. It's objectively got a lot of advantages. Why hexbear. And if I decided I was trans I'd be so terrible at it for so long 😢 everyone would just look at me like a man pretending to be a woman. A pervert. I don't want people to look at me like a disgusting creep :/ what did I do to deserve this. This sucks. I hate the idea of being trans.

Also if anyone has any advice on discussing this with my therapist (or if I even should) I'd appreciate it. I feel like I should know what I want before telling them but (emoji I can't remember the name of, it's the yellow face throwing hands upward in kinda defeat)

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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everyone would just look at me like a man pretending to be a woman. A pervert. I don’t want people to look at me like a disgusting creep :/

On the plus side, it'll help filter out people who probably rather not be friends with anyways. My mom worried about us being ostracized because of having two moms, but I figured anyone who that was enough reason to keep them from wanting to be around me were not worth my time. So I was pretty unashamed about my parents (perhaps I should have respected their privacy a bit more). It is a lot harder to feel that way when its yourself and I can't say much given I still need to come out to some people (and I intend to stay in the eggshell at work), but at least its something I'd like to keep in mind myself.

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

News on my Unjust Depths posting(update forthcoming!):

I started going off about it in the new sapphic book server I joined because the funny leftist lady I found (different to the goodreads commie lady) is reading it too and will go off about it with me sometimes.

One of the server regulars was all "I want you to know I am completely unfamiliar with Unjust Depths before you brought it up, and I am intensely amused and appreciate you going out of your way to do a big ol' infodump and gushing (and hyperfocusing?) on it here" which, I'm glad for the enthusiasm and all, cool that they seem interested, but I can't help reading the slightest bit of condescension into that "intensely amused", like yes captain I speak in ridiculous paragraphs, do not bully me... It is going well in there though, I'd say.

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