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[–] context@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago
[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

infinite under communism, finite under capitalism

[–] sloth@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago
[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well the universe is finite (and expanding) but what exists outside the bounds of our spatial dimensions are currently unknowable

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yep! The observable universe has an edge we're fairly confident about. Though while it is absolutely "expanding", unfortunately, space around it is also expanding, so the universe is getting bigger in size, but we don't think we're gaining any new mass or exciting celestial objects. Everything's just getting further away..

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I wanna grab on the edge of the universe like a tablecloth and ride it into the (I must emphasize, deeply metaphorical) sunset

[–] CDommunist@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

What's the edge of the universe like?

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Finite but yuge trump-dapper

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

who care lmao nerd

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The universe is big, really big. Almost as big as the galaxy - Dan Quayle

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

I'll never tell! 😠

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It’s as big as your mom

[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

You still believe in that universe shit? Grow up

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Infinite since it's a procedurally generated simulation

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never mind the universe, what about the European Union? Is that infinite or finite?

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

It's infinite in its cringe dimension

[–] CyberSyndicalist@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

infinity + 1

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

It is both and neither at the same time. lea-think

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is a circle infinite or finite? How about a ball?

[–] puff@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A circle has finite surface area. A sphere has finite volume and finite surface area.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

But you can walk straight for all infinity. That's kind of my point when people talk about an infinite/finite universe they conflate the distance that can be travelled with the surface area/volume of it.

[–] puff@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Current best measurements suggest we live in flat space.

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is the toroidial thing debunked? I read about it some time ago but didn't dive into it too much

[–] puff@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no evidence for it, if that's what you mean

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Ah I thought there was, thanks for setting that straight

[–] ped_xing@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Finite. You can't have infinitely many things. Where would you put them?

Edit: Apologies to Steven Wright

[–] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

finite 4d sphere, with extremely small curvature

[–] hexthismess@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago
[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

grillman the universe is like my affinity for grilling

[–] blight@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago
[–] abc@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

As far as it will ever concern humanity - infinite.

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

all I know is that as a non-native English speaker, it's infinitely weird to me that finite isn't pronounced like the -finite in infinite

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

English is Mandarin except with latin characters and global hegemony. Pronounciation is a fuck

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Some infinites are smaller than others.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Define Universe. Hubble Volume obviously finite. Current inflationary cosmos likely infinite in space but not in other dimensions. Entire substrate the cosmos comes from likely infinite along many more dimensions.

[–] puff@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Entire substrate the cosmos comes from likely infinite along many more dimensions.

Agree with the first part of your comment but this last part... There's no experimental evidence whatsoever for other dimensions besides 1 time + 3 space so this is extremely speculative.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean, Time might be infinite, but it is bounded at least on one side and I suspect it's not bounded on the other.

In any case no one has evidence even for infinite space, for all we know it stops dead a Planck Length beyond the Hubble volume. Though this would require uh...extensive revision...of current models.

As for other dimensions, I'm using the term in the loosest possible sense to mean the substrate the current cosmos came from. It could have come ex Nihlo, of course, but it seems more likely it's part of a greater structure.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

graps the barrel and pulls the gun to my forehead go ahead motherfucker, make my day

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

The universe is an inflating balloon.

[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

The universe is dialectical.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The universe is like in cartoons when they are chasing eachother in a hallway with many doors and they run in one door and come out of one on the opposite side.

I hope that answered your question.

[–] Stoneykins@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

There might be some parts where it is finite but from where I live it looks infinite

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Infinite in the Y direction, but finite in the X direction

[–] Des@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

multiple inflationary events occuring outside the horizon of individual "universes"

so basically infinite sea foam of both ancient voids where protons barely exist anymore, mature universes with active star birth, and places with weird physics that fell apart quickly

over a long enough time frame, some of those ancient voids may light up again when some quantum tunneling event occurs

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think it can be technically infinite, but you certainly cannot reach its edge as it constantly expands.

[–] CDommunist@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just move faster than the rate of expansion

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Humans should totally figure out how to go thousands of times light speed with space communism.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

The universe has not yet decided.