Also, if this is an organization setting, I'm extremely disappointed in your PR review process. If someone is committing vendor code to the repo someone else should reject the pull.

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 106 points 2 years ago (3 children)

What if I told you a lot of companies don't have solid review requirement processes? Some barely use version control at all

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sure, I understand... but if you're at one of those companies you should introduce it.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah... Usually if you join a company with bad practices it's because the people who already work there don't want to do things properly. They tend to not react well to the new guy telling them what they're doing wrong.

Only really feasible if you're the boss, or you have an unreasonable amount of patience.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago

Usually, the boss (or people above the boss) are the one's stopping it. Engineers know what the solution is. They may still resent the new guy saying it, though, because they've been through this fight already and are tired.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Eh, if everyone knows what they're doing, it can be much better to not have it and rather do more pairing.

But yes, obviously Steven does not know what they're doing.

[–] firelizzard@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Better to not have version control!? Dear god I hope I never work on anything with you.

[–] docAvid@midwest.social 16 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Pretty sure they meant to not have review. Dropping peer review in favor of pair programming is a trendy idea these days. Heh, you might call it "pairs over peers". I don't agree with it, though. Pair programming is great, but two people, heads together, can easily get on a wavelength and miss the same things. It's always valuable to have people who have never seen the new changes take a look. Also, peer review helps keep the whole team up to date on their knowledge of the code base, a seriously underrated benefit. But I will concede that trading peer review for pair programming is less wrong than giving up version control. Still wrong, but a lot less wrong.

[–] firelizzard@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Agreed. Even self-reviewing a few days after I wrote the code helps me see mistakes.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, no, I meant a review process. Version control is always a good idea.

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[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I've seen people trade zip archives like Yo-Ge-oh cards useing excel as a source control manager so it could be much MUCH worse

[–] littlewonder@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Dude, put content warnings on this. I have trauma from shared drives and fucking Jared leaving the Important File open on his locked computer while he takes off for a week, locking out access to anyone else.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Those companies probably also pay ABSOLUTE SHITTER

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Competence is expensive. Supply is low and demand is high.

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Fucking stop Steven, that absolute shitter

[–] xlash123@sh.itjust.works 121 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's not enough to delete the files in the commit, unless you're ok with Git tracking the large amount of data that was previously committed. Your git clones will be long, my friend

[–] Backfire@lemmy.world 128 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You'd have to rewrite the history as to never having committed those files in the first place, yes.

And then politely ask all your coworkers to reset their working environments to the "new" head of the branch, same as the old head but not quite.

Chaos ensues. Sirens in the distance wailing.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rewrite history? Difficult.

Start a new project and nuke the old one? Finger guns.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

History is written by the victors. The rest of us have to nuke the project and start over.

[–] Dultas@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If this was committed to a branch would doing a squash merge into another branch and then nuking the old one not do the trick?

[–] Backfire@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Yes, that would do the trick

[–] Shareni@programming.dev 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

git clone --depth=1 ?

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 years ago (3 children)

No, don't do that. That modifies the commit hashes, so tags no longer work.

git clone --filter=blob:none is where it's at.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

I don't understand how we're all using git and it's not just some backend utility that we all use a sane wrapper for instead.

Everytime you want to do anything with git it's a weird series or arcane nonsense commands and then someone cuts in saying "oh yeah but that will destroy x y and z, you have to use this other arcane nonsense command that also sounds nothing like you're trying to do" and you sit there having no idea why either of them even kind of accomplish what you want.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 21 points 2 years ago (10 children)

It's because git is a complex tool to solve complex problems. If you're one hacker working alone, RCS will do an acceptable job. As soon as you add a second hacker, things change and RCS will quickly show its limitations. FOSS version control went through CVS and SVN before finally arriving at git, and there are good reasons we made each of those transitions. For that matter, CVS and SVN had plenty of arcane stuff to fix weird scenarios, too, and in my subjective experience, git doesn't pile on appreciably more.

You think deleting an empty directory should be easy? CVS laughs at your effort, puny developer.

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[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

There are tons of wrappers for git, but they all kinda suck. They either don't let you do something the cli does, so you have to resort to the arcane magicks every now and then anyways. Or they just obfuscate things to the point where you have no idea what it's doing, making it impossible to know how to fix things if (when) it fucks things up.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

Git is complicated, but then again, it's a tool with a lot of options. Could it be nicer and less abstract in its use? Sure!

However, if you compare what goes does, and how it does, to it's competitors, then git is quite amazing. 5-10 years ago it was all svn, the dark times. Simpler tool and an actual headache to use.

[–] alsimoneau@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Mercurial is way better.

There, I said it.

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[–] Shareni@programming.dev 7 points 2 years ago

Thanks, didn't know about that one.

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

What are you smoking? Shallow clones don't modify commit hashes.

The only thing that you lose is history, but that usually isn't a big deal.

--filter=blob:none probably also won't help too much here since the problem with node_modules is more about millions of individual files rather than large files (although both can be annoying).

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[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 60 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I can't see past the word wrap implementation in that UI. Mo dules indeed.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 years ago

Wow, that's 300k lines of text that anyone, who clones the repo, has to download.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Do I really have to escape my dots in a .gitignore?

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I really don't think so. The documentation says nothing of the like.

Maybe someone thought it's a regex pattern, where escaping dots would make sense. But yeah, it mostly works like glob patterns instead.

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Also don't need trailing slash

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

nah

[–] Lobreeze@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Not usually

[–] BeefPiano@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why do I get the feeling this is Steven’s commit?

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

sid-code steven is dumb-code

[–] thatirishguyyy@lemmy.today 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Creating a mucj larger dl. What a dick.

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