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[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

love when pop culture journalists have to write about anything in real life because they have no idea how to do it. like why would the sanctions be on the anime series? what does that even mean? how could north korea violate the sanctions on itself? wouldn't it be the japanese studio (that isn't named until the 7th paragraph) that violated the sanctions?

While this is just the latest controversy surrounding outsourcing to North Korean studios, the general practice was the subject of intense discussion recently when it arose that a child had potentially worked on a Winter 2024 anime series. While their true age is unclear, it prompted discussion over hiring practices over the Internet and how low investment in human resources leads to a scramble to hire whoever is available.

Implies that North Korean studios (maybe?) employ child labor when the (unverified) story was that a Japanese animator might be 14, and Korea has nothing to do with it. Like I'm not saying journalism school would have helped this article, but I feel like it could have at least established a baseline standard of reporting.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Too bad they didn't get to work on the scripts, too. It'd be awesome to have a generic isekai power fantasy become more like the anti-imperialist classic Squirrel and Hedgehog.

[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

The foxes in Squirrel and Hedgehog represent amerikkka. Miles "Tails" Prower is cancelled.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What, you're not gonna give us a link?

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Whoever worked on this put their blood, sweat and tears into these inbetweens.

And we have no idea if they did it willingly or if they were forced to do it.

internet-delenda-est

And we have no idea if they did it willingly or if they were forced to do it.

something something wage labor

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Libs gonna lib lol.

It doesn't take much to see that the animation industry is a human suffering machine in the capitalist world. I have no doubt that it's similar under socialism, but one could hope that conditions are better there. At the very least, they're not sending themselves to an early grave for shareholder value.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I like how the hedgehog's helmet has furgonomic spikes on it.

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Starting From Zero In Another World With Only The Juche Idea by Comrade Kim Il Sung and a Type 58 Assault Rifle

[–] hello_hello@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago
[–] booty@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My understanding is that animators in the ROK delegate work to animators in the DPRK pretty often, wouldn't surprise me if Japanese and Chinese animators do the same thing.

It's a sort of well-known trivia thing that an animation studio in the DPRK worked on one of the episodes of Avatar

[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a sort of well-known trivia thing that an animation studio in the DPRK worked on one of the episodes of Avatar

Yo, which one?

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

~~Aang awakens to the immortal truth of the Juche Idea~~

I was low key hoping it would be the Eco-terrorism episode, or something

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They kinda lib (Avatar the last Airbender) though... When it comes to politics?

In some ways, yes and in other ways no. It depends on the episode tbh

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not you too, DPRK... why Isekai??? oooaaaaaaauhhh

[–] SummerIsTooWarm@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I can't decide if it's a L for Korea that they produced Isekai, or if I should give critical support to the Isekai genre for getting produced in Korea lea-think

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any other anime is fine for them to produce... DW too much... meow-tankie

[–] SummerIsTooWarm@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is Dahlia in Bloom that bad? At least it's not stuff like Redo of a Healer

Nah, isekai is just oversaturated to me...

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because it makes them money.

animation has always ended up being a game of outsourcing it to cheaper labour.

U.S does it basically to all countries (be it directly or indirectly) back then U.S would outsource series like Batman the Animated series to studios like Sunrise in japan (which is directly related to why The Big O looks like batman). Modern times, its usually to korea (most of netflix' animated offerings. Avatar the last airbender for instance, has a lot of korean elements in the show.

Japan if not using home studios, will outsource non key frames to korea, phillipines, or vietnam.

this news is just saying a south korean conpany os outsourcing it to a north korean conpany.

Animation that has little to no merchandising basically always tries to make an animation as cheap as possible, because production of it makes little to no money. Unless you sit in positions like kids shows(which sell lucrative ad spots for toys), major merchandising animation giants (e.g disney, pokemon, gundam), a series is usually done at a loss to prop up some other sales.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was kinda joking in my response, but hey, it's good to see serious engagement here...

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are all the anime sites gonna remove these shows because they're "not anime unless they're japanese"? Lmao.

Which is stupid in 2024 anyway, because animation across east Asian countries outsources labor between each other all of the damn time! Your Japanese anime is just as much Korean, Chinese, and Vietnamese at this point, as it is Japanese.

Go look at the credits of most modern anime productions out of Japan, and large swathes of the names you see aren't Japanese, but are from those other countries.

Even a fairly low stakes, low budget, slice of life anime, like Non Non Biyori has Vietnamese names all over its god damn credits, because globalization has impacted the east Asian animation industry in such a way, that there's an large cross pollination of talent across borders, for better and worse.

And to the point of the post, it makes sense that the DPRK would be involved in that to some extent. The original Squirrel and Hedgehog cartoon, for example, has some pretty impressive visuals for a TV series, compared to the stuff coming out of Japan, at the same time, prior to the consumer electronics boom of the 80s.

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

headlines i never thought I'd see:

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

It was pretty common for DPRK animators to work on Japanese and European animation during the 90's and 2000's.

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol apparently this studio also worked on the simpsons movie, bender's big score and an episode of the last airbender

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Creator/SEKStudio

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It'd be really cool if they used the animation experience from these works to make an original communist anime. The bright side of a possible crackdown on this is that it'd mean there are a bunch of animators who otherwise have nothing to use their skills on.

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

animengels animarx

More please.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they do make their own series. I believe for example a common one brought up is Boy General (which this studio made). iirc theyre just restricted on what is allowed to be in a series.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Wow, it's wild seeing ones that are more modern than squirrel and hedgehog

theyre just restricted on what is allowed to be in a series.

Of course they are, everyone is, I just meant that it'd be cool to see what they made for their own people rather than for foreign corporate overlords.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Other animated series the studio is believed to have worked on are HBO's Iyanu, Child of Wonder and Invincible Season 3. Files have also been identified that may suggest a relationship with the Japanese animation studio Ekachi Epilka (Demon Lord, Retry!).

Huh

[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

North Korea making Invincible is the reason it's so good

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Isekai Series

Rare DPRK L

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Wait this isnt fake news

[–] idkmybffjoeysteel@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Can we please sanction the Great Satan itself

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago
[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

is there any good dprk exclusive anime? im interested

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kinda? This YouTube channel has quite a few - nothing that's too engaging story-wise, but pretty interesting if you're into animation.