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[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 71 points 1 year ago

Shitty corporate backed agency supports corpos. More news at 11.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's shitty, but thankfully, we have the emulation community.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The big one for me is: how do we preserve online games? The ones with a server-side component?

Even bnetd had issues, although I think that time is over; but what about when we the public never had access to the game core in the first place?

[–] Hathaway@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We need devs, like the maker of the Falcon 4 game to “leak” source code. Its the only reason the worlds premier combat flight sim run on a game released in the 90’s.

Should I be talking about a game that released the same year I was born? No. I’m so glad someone kept it all.

[–] Kissaki@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ESA - European Speedrunner Assembly

/me gets confused by comments and content.

Electronic Software Association

Ah…

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was also confused what the European Space Agency has to do with this

[–] Droechai@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Datacenters.... in SPACE!

[–] tal@lemmy.today 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, okay. But it's not really the ESA's responsibility to archive art and cultural works for posterity. They're going to care about whether it's going to affect their bottom line and if the answer is "yes", then they probably aren't going to support it. Why ask them?

There was a point in time in the US when a work was only protected by copyright if one deposited such a work with the Library of Congress. That might be excessive, but it could theoretically be done with video games. Maybe only ones that sell more than N copies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_deposit

Legal deposit is a legal requirement that a person or group submit copies of their publications to a repository, usually a library. The number of copies required varies from country to country. Typically, the national library is the primary repository of these copies. In some countries there is also a legal deposit requirement placed on the government, and it is required to send copies of documents to publicly accessible libraries.

[–] chloyster@beehaw.org 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree it shouldn't be the ESA's responsibility. However as it says in the article:

In 2023, the Video Game History Foundation revealed 87 percent of games released pre-2010 were currently not preserved in any capacity. Attempts previously made by the Library of Congress were halted by the ESA, which said it'd rely on publishers to take care of those efforts themselves.

So the ESA have made themselves the problem by halting such attempts

[–] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago

It's still circular. The ESA doesn't run the Library of Congress. They can argue that the LoC shouldn't do that, but they don't have decision-making authority in that.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

mandate it with full source code to participate in copyright related lawsuits of the work, and mandate all materials get posted online after the work enters public domain

[–] Dippy@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well this is disappointing. I wonder what % of games will be lost media in 15 years

[–] millie@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only the ones that don't get cracked.

Thankfully there's a small army of anti-capitalist heroes preserving media through the era of corporate destruction of literally everything.