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[–] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

internetpilled commentmaxer

[–] RION@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

when i'm in a being normal competition and my opponent doesn't constantly phrase things like this squidward-nervous

[–] WashedAnus@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you're the good version of my coworker, who speaks like a reddit bot

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

tips le fedora do you bacon at midnight, good gentlesir?

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

i choose violence

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Sitting at the dinner table trying not to say this taking-restraint

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Another kkkracka down!

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why tf are they so fixated on eating bugs anyway? It's still more efficient to eat plants?? 😒

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I still don’t really understand Ultras. If We Burn compared them to football hooligans, which makes a decent amount of sense, but I’m kind of curious where they come from and how.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

As a retired anarchist, I think anarchists can come from different routes.

This is just purely from my experience and is also not exhaustive. One notable path, talked about in If We Burn, is the punk scene and the hooligans. Lots of anarchists seem to come out of the punk scene, especially in the US since we don't really have hooligans. Although I have several anarchist friends who were little street criminals in their youth, petty things.

Some, I think, start thinking politically through an academic or purely theoretical side but without an understanding of political history. Purely theoretical idealism and uncritical consumption of anti-Communist propaganda, leads them to reject actual, successful movements for the sake of the ideal as the highest and only goal. This type of value formation is also famously understood, since Nietzsche, to lead to nihilism—which we also see in anarchist circles.

I think many mean well but they are confused, uneducated, or too invested to admit they were wrong. I'm of the latter path, I started thinking politically once I was in university due to some personal things that happened, but was really just a crescendo for my whole life up to that point. I was involved in a lot of things and did community organizing but it took me a long time to understand I was mistaken in how to carry out political work. Through actually studying political history and ML theory, I was able to have a better understanding than I did when it was just rejected a priori by my circles. Now I can see I was wrong and the Marxist-Leninist line is correct. And there are a lot of anarchists that can learn and improve if they can approach the material with an open and critical mind. I still feel a lot of sympathy for them because of the time I spent in those circles and now I feel like so many are really lost.

To be fair though, I was initially at the very start thinking in a ML way before I was pulled into anarchist thinking, but my experience encountering parties was so cringe and terrible that it made me think it wasn't the correct path. I also tried the trot ISO but they had some really colorblind, dumbass racial theory that just instantly pushed me away. They all felt really White and uncomfortable. Then I got into anarchist circles and it all didn't quite work politically but things felt way better somehow, especially the discussions around race and there were more PoC. Now that I'm thinking more in line with ML, I still sometimes think I should give parties another try or something but, damn, many parties in the US are lame or feds or both. I'm really involved in my Union so I just treat that as the political work I'm doing because I'm not sure if I'll even find a party in the US I'm comfortable with. I was never an internet anarchist, which are somehow lightyears worse than actual anarchists, but I am kinda an internet ML I guess.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm really just trying to channel Black_Mold_Futures without triggering the sectarianismban-hammer

That comrade could post on a level incomprehensible to mere mortals... But damn he hated anarchists lol

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I do write like how I talk

Just with less stuttering