We like leftists and liberals.
We want to ban all guns.
We want free healthcare.
We want UBI.
We don't mind being taxed.
We want to give everyone a free abortion!
Capital c Conservatism is about hierarchy. Hierarchies of race, gender, sexuality, or whatever. Any category imaginable must fit into an order with some on the top who rule over the masses at the bottom. Egalitarian ideals like democracy are disgusting to the Conservative, unless the franchise is exclusive to the "right" people.
God, guns, country, freedom, and capitalism are trends that come and go, but from Edmond Berk to Jordan Peterson, hierarchy is the throughline.
This is just overwhelmingly false on just about every manner. Try getting your information from somewhere other than r/politics
Ideally Conservatism should be about being reserved/realistic and Liberalism should be about being optimistic/hopeful. Kind of like finding balance between art and science if that matters any sense.
Let's take imagination for example. A liberal view would be too help everyone that comes to America looking for help. A conservative view would be America can't just have an open border and let in everyone from every country. These are both rational views. Ideally both sides would compromise and find balance somewhere in the middle to help as many imagrants as is reasonably possible. Sadly that's not the case.
Yeah, it's hard to compromise with people who's only response to anything is to try and yell "racism" as loud as possible
When someone largely supports programs that primarily exacerbate ethnic, minority, or racial disparity. What's the correct terms?
The correct answer is to take a long, hard look at why you're so obsessed with people's skin color
Yes, that's the question we want to know about you. Why do you all enact policies that focus so much on hurting people who share ethnicities, skin colors, etc. That's the question. That's why I asked you what the correct term is. But you don't have an answer. Just straw men and deflection.
We arent focused on skin color. You're just the ones picking everything apart based on it, and acting like everyone else must be just as obsessed as you are.
Then why does popular conservative policy consistently disparaged certain skin colors and ethnicities so commonly. It couldn't happen just by chance or accident. The rates that it's happening aren't coincidence. So someone sure is. And it's sure popular with conservatives. That's interesting right?
No, your obsession with race, and assumptions that everyone else just must be as obsessed as you is the only interesting thing here
How does that work? I'm supposedly somehow obsessed with race simply because we notice that your policies highly negatively impact certain groups more than others. And you aren't, even though the people you vote for and the policies you support are responsible for it. I'd really like to see a good explanation for this. Fingers crossed.
The explanation is that I don't give a fuck about race, and don't consider disparate outcome to be an issue, nor a symptom of disparate policy. You're the one who's decided that race is what you want to obsess over. Not me
I don’t give a fuck about race, and don’t consider disparate outcome to be an issue, nor a symptom of disparate polic
So if the effects of a policy result in disparate outcomes, that's totally fine with you? Explain how that's not racist
with the (stereo)typical “immigrants bad, jesus good, gays evil” speech.
That middle part has all but vanished here. We can't have compassion for migrants because we have "limited resources" and clearly they're all just bad people (totally unrelated to their skin color they'll tell you). They gladly elect politicians that destroy the social safety net for the poor.
The only thing even remotely related to Jesus being here is supply side Jesus.
You have a weird view if you still think all conservatives are christians. Hell, have I posted a single christian thing here?
I think your problem is you have this inaccurate preconceived notion, and its just not jiving with what you see.
Note: I'm the main poster, and head mod. I'm trying my best, but I'm kind of a fuck up, and have a hard time explaining myself well.
When you're posting news articles, it's usually about the stuff that happened recently. Combined with "Not all progress is good progress", it's basically indistinguishable from "fearing new things". But fair point, and I've been trying to find good stuff happening, like the rates of gun ownership going up, and high school skeet shooting clubs. I'll give it more thought on what quality content actually looks like. In the meantime, I'll keep going.
Please keep going! I don't identify as conservative, but I do have a view or two, and it's important to speak out.
Just declaring that everyone you disagree with has no values doesn't make it so.
Then what ARE the values of conservatism?
That highly depends on the individual.