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Foreign minister warns of environmental catastrophe in Baltic Sea as he accuses Moscow of using unseaworthy vessels

Russia appears prepared to create “environmental havoc” by sailing unseaworthy oil tankers through the Baltic Sea in breach of all maritime rules, the Swedish foreign minister has said.

Speaking to the Guardian during his first visit to London since Sweden became a Nato member, Tobias Billström called for new rules and enforcement mechanisms to prevent the ageing and uninsured Russian shadow fleet causing an environmental catastrophe. About half of all Russian oil transported by sea passes through the Baltic Sea and Danish waters, often operating under opaque ownership, and using international waters to try to avoid scrutiny.

The fleet generates a huge amount of revenue for Russia’s war machine, bypassing western sanctions that try to block access to insurance if Russia sells the oil above $60 a barrel. In practice as little as 20% of Russian oil is sold below the price cap.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Then those ships need to be confiscated & impounded. Russia is in a hybrid war with the West & it's time the West started acting like it.

[–] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

At the risk of starting a larger conflict. But agreed Russia will just keep doing whatever they want unless someone actually trys to stop them.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

At some point we neet to act even if we start a larger conflict, otherwise Russia will always win because we are too afraid to fight back. Also we need to show other asshole countries that they can't hide behind their weapons and do atrocties when ever they want.

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Agreed. History has shown that appeasement does not work with these kind of people. You need to set boundaries and push back hard when they test the boundaries you setup or else they'll just step over any new boundary you set.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Russia cannot sustain a larger conflict.

[–] M137@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That kind of embargo is how Pearl Harbor got bombed but okay.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Ancient history and not at all relevant anymore.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Man, Russia is really quadrupling down on the villainy.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

People act like Russia is in somekind of a phase but they are behaving in such a evil way since decades now.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never implied that. Just pointing out the obvious.

[–] avater@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I know, i also did not imply that you said so :)

[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

As long as russia remains a dictatorship, they will continue. Enriching a handful at the expense of everyone else. The dictatorship is not going to govern itself responsibly. Only outside pressure helps them do that.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I guess the idea is that if there's no guarantee the oil will make it to port, they can sell it at a much lower price?

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why not just stopping the ships from sailing through your waters on these grounds?

[–] mindlight@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They most likely didn't sail through our waters. It's international water. The only place where they would sail through ours or Danish waters would probably be Öresund.

However, if I remember it correctly there's a treaty in place that allows ships to pass through.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

We also have treaties that say attacks on civilian infrastructure is an act of war.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Russia appears prepared to create “environmental havoc” by sailing unseaworthy oil tankers through the Baltic Sea in breach of all maritime rules, the Swedish foreign minister has said.

Speaking to the Guardian during his first visit to London since Sweden became a Nato member, Tobias Billström called for new rules and enforcement mechanisms to prevent the ageing and uninsured Russian shadow fleet causing an environmental catastrophe.

Foreign ministers from the eight Nordic-Baltic grouping of countries met on the strategic island of Gotland a fortnight ago to discuss how to tackle the Russian fleet.

He said every state that was a member of the International Maritime Organisation had a responsibility to uphold IMO rules and regulations, and had the right to ask the captain of a ship not deemed seaworthy to take action before leaving port.

The former UK armed forces minister James Heappey said he kept a copy of the Swedish civil defence manual on his desk as a model for what Britain should emulate.

Like all foreign ministers, he said he was wary of the implications of a Trump presidency had for Europe, Nato and Ukraine, but doubted the bulk of the Republican party had succumbed to pro-Russian propaganda.


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