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[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 94 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's adorable the people in there saying "go to NPR, go to social media, blow this up!"

most clueless white person thing to think ever. Pigs murder, what, 10,000 dogs a year on average? They're a dog killing factory. why would the bootlicking media give a single ounce of fuck?

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yeah if I recall it's like 1 dog every hour in the US, quite frequently its their own police dogs too

[–] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] AutomatedPossum@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

reddit-logo delenda est

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

A while ago I did see "1313-1" which is apparently the length you must go to in some subs w/ automated filters.

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Also I stg if this turns into a struggle session about pitbulls I'm locking the thread.

Kill cops not dogs.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Please ban anyone who engages in the racist bullshit against pits. I hate those pieces of shit so much

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

Fr, fascists and people who think pits are violent genetically instead of having shitty people abuse them into it solidarity emoji.

[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The existence of dog breeds is literally eugenics (with predictable horrific impacts on health and fuck all reliable impacts on behaviour)

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Also proof eugenics don’t work. I have a Labrador retriever and mixed breed that has multiple types of terrier and some sort of Argentine mastiff knockoff. Looks like a stereotypical “pit”, but according to the test the shelter did is like 7 breeds mixed.

The retriever has never once chased a thrown object. It’s supposed to be in the name lol. The so called “dangerous fighting dog” loves nothing more than bringing back thrown objects all day if able.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes, eugenics don't work, but that doesn't mean it doesn't affect the breed in one way or another. If some dog breeds have terrible snouts or spines or brittle bones due to failed eugenics, why can't they be affected in other areas? Mutts (the dogs) are generally much healthier, yet they are used by racists to refer to minorities while they want to become like the dogs who can't breathe while gnawing on people mindlessly. And I'm not talking about pitbulls with the latter part, just that this is what they see as perfectionl.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I’m well aware of the bulldog’s respiratory issues. It’s tragic.

[–] spacecadet@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How can you be racist against a dog breed? Like you mean "breedist" or something?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On top of what GinAndJuche said, there's multiple layers to it. Racists often use pitbulls as a way of introducing people who don't know any better to race-essentialist thinking. "This dog breed is inherently more dangerous and aggressive, they need to be put down for their own good," that kind of talking point. Then the rhetorical focus becomes more abstract and instead of being about dog breeds, it becomes about racial groups, so they make a parallel between supposedly dangerous dog breeds and undesirable minority groups.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Even if pitbulls are singled out due to social reasons, how does that invalidate its biology? People have bred dogs for a multitude of reasons, from fighting to farming to hunting. If bulldogs can hardly breathe due to centuries of inbreeding, why wouldn't some dogs be affected in other areas (physical strength or behavior) if humans kept pushing them in a certain direction? You can punt a chihuahua across the room and it'll run away, but most sane people wouldn't mess with dogs like german sheperds, pitbulls, mastiffs, etc. because they will kill you lol. As such, people generally don't use chihuahuas for anything that involves a prolonged fight or confrontation because they can't do anything but yap

These days shit like human eugenics is frowned upon. You can easily refute the conflations between dog breeding and human behavior - and even when there is a "parallel", you can easily point to all the monarchs who ended up like these dogs from their royal "selective breeding", though that's probably not productive because fascists want to euthanize disabled people even if they are the result of their "master race" eugenics projects.

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[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read up on the history of anti pit bull propaganda (if you believe any of the dumbass nonsense like locking jaws you’ve already fallen for it). It’s intrinsically tied to an increase of POC ownership of the breed and racists using that as an opportunity to create a stigma around the breed.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better, I almost exclusively see white people defending pitbulls. They also get defensive on any mention of putting a leash on it, but it just seems to be a case of dog owners sucking shit as always.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

People who don’t believe in leashes are a special kind of ignorant. “As always”? This just convinces me more that the ignorant don’t understand how dogs work.

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There was a thread a {couple years back|don't read the comments lmao} about a study in behavior differences between dog breeds. The behaviors that actually reliably differ by breed are:

  • Retrieves objects

  • Howls

  • Avoids getting wet

  • Points

Which notably doesn't include whatever people keep saying about pitbulls.

[–] frankfurt_schoolgirl@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

lol which dogs avoid getting wet?

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[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

we've got three dogs and two immediately jump in a body of water they see and the other goes on pee strike if it's so much as drizzling outside

he does love the snow tho bizzarely

[–] MattsAlt@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I have a husky who hates water. Think it's a survival instinct where water means freezing to death. Also, double coat means they hold a ton of water

[–] ksynwa_from_lemmygrad@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What's that formatting with {|}? First time I'm seeing it. Is there a name for it? Doesn't look like superscript.

[–] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AFAIK it's a very recently implemented feature and as I understand it it's derived from a Japanese script style convention for annotating text with different characters (I think? I'm just inferring from context here).

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In Japanese it's called furigana or yomigana, but it's also used for other ideographic/character based scripts where it's apparently called {ルビ | ruby} {characters | fuck 12}

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/globalization/fonts-layout/ruby

[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can we make it a struggle session about dog breeding?

The average inbreeding based on genetic analysis across 227 breeds was close to 25%, or the equivalent of sharing the same genetic material with a full sibling. These are levels considered well above what would be safe for either humans or wild animal populations. In humans, high levels of inbreeding (3-6%) have been associated with increased prevalence of complex diseases as well as other conditions.

For snub-nosed dogs, it's more like 34 percent inbreeding (more than a full sibling)

[–] DerEwigeAtheist@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a reason I prefered mixed breeds. Way less health problems, and also avoids participating in the industry.

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

People who set out for a certain breed of dog and buy from breeders suck. Adopt a rescue dog if you want one and you can care for one. My dog is a rescue and it took us a while to teach her what she can and can't do, but she's a perfectly innocent dog and has never hurt anyone.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Meanwhile, what is it that actually makes it to the front page of that shithole copaganda site?

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hate myself for saying this, but burning such a horrific way to go. I’d temporarily put my hate for cops aside if they saved my dog from that hell.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh definitely. I'd be eternally grateful to any person who saved my best friend from death, even if it weren't such an excruciating one as burning. Whatever cop saved that dog did an undeniably good thing and I didn't mean the comment as a condemnation of that one. Cops in general are actually capable of doing doing good, actually. It just doesn't change the fundamentally evil role they play in a capitalist society nor the fact that on the whole they're prone to doing despicable things as a result of that position... and the sociopathic feedback loop of that role attracting people who want to do despicable things in the first place.

I was just pointing out that what gets boosted and celebrated on reddit is the copaganda stories. It's the post linked by OP that everyone on reddit should be made aware of, and how common the practice is of cops murdering dogs. Instead, I found it really ironic that literally minutes after seeing this post, the thing I see on reddit's front page with tens of thousands more upvotes is yet another heroic cop story, pretty much the polar opposite of this one.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

I got you, there’s just a contingent of shitheads who would dunk on dog saving. Why DiDnT He SaVe AnOthER AnImAl. As if they aren’t the animal closest to us, well maybe besides pests that rely on an urban environment. Those rely on us even more, arguably at least.

[–] EmoThugInMyPhase@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of the cops I encounter on a daily basis are either polite or neutral to everyone around town and on the train (unless the passenger is homeless). Capitalism aside, regardless of how nice or funny or relatable they are to me, it doesn't change the fact that if I was murdered by their colleague just for fun, they would choose to stay silent instead of turning their partner in. The rare instances when cops do have a conscious, they either commit suicide or die in a training accident a few months later.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

There were 2 other similar copaganda posts in 24 hours. I'm sure they were boosted because of this post.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

RIP sweet girl sadness

I wish it didn't take dogs being shot for redditors to see how disgustingly evil cops are. You'd think young disabled Black men getting shot would've put us in the same page, but much like the border camps ("Tell a middle aged white lady they're holding puppies in overcrowded cages without feeding them and she'll become a terrorist. Tell her it's hispanic children...") you can't count on anyone having empathy for PoC.

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

this fucker's either bootlicking or brand new

So a group of police conducted a pre-planned raid at your house without a warrant and shot your dog, due to something your minor brother is into?

This is ragebait, guaranteed. OP is a liar.

I wish I had time to drop on them a pile of articles about that exact fucking thing happening. Not that it would affect their "thinking," but I prefer when there's a cited refutation for passersby.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

wow that sounds so out of place for Yankistani cops, usually they're beacons of virtue and honour

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[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

This is my fucking nightmare scenario. Gonna hug my Husky for a bit.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

PSA: if you’re anti pitbull you aren’t a comrade

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Please help my ignorance I know nothing about dogs and their breeds so I cant tell fact from fiction.

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just ignore the chuds and you’ll be fine. It’s a group of distinct breeds with varying characteristics that are linked together based on looks. A key characteristic of a lackwit is somebody who talks about them like a single breed

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Its not about being correct or wrong Im worried about, I simply wouldn't voice an opinion, but there is an instinctive reflex when certain dogs walk past.

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[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Brb need to go hold my sweetheart.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

a sad thought my partner and i had when we got our Belgian malnois:

at least there's a smaller chance cops would kill her because it would be like killing their own (yes i know they often kill their own)

lo and behold when they go out cops frequently want to pet her. at the very least it's sort of protection for my partner who otherwise looks very "woke" and the kind of person cops would fuck with

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