Oh fuck off with this JK Rowling "Actually, Dumbledore was gay!" shit
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The fun thing is I was yelling about this years ago; Nick and Nora are American war criminals and Beth portrays them as a happy little couple in a happy little leave it to beaver suburb instead of actually engaging with the story. Coming out and claiming "akshually we intended this all along!" just confirms that they were cowards who understood what they were doing but didn't have the balls to make the MC a war criminal.
The War Veterans Hall in FO4 has a document saying "oh we are so eager to hear Nate talk"
So yes, he absolutely was megaHitler
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She really did ruin those kinds of retcons, didn't she
Like, it could have been something like "Nate was stationed at Anchorage during the actual events of Operation Anchorage" or something innocuous like that
But no, it's literally one of the defining moments of the series
A moment which establishes how fucked up the US is
And just gleefully pointing and being like "That's you", as if that's something cool
Fucking wizards pooping on the floor and teleporting it away
confirming my assertion that 95% of video game writers are dumb
Regardless of who owns the IP, it's fanfiction
I have come around to the rigid and dogmatic belief that all fiction is fan fiction and authorship isn't very important.
Also canon is not at all important when compared to just telling a good story
canon is just continuity from a more zoomed out perspective, you a gOoD sToRy freaks wouldn't tolerate that shit in an individual story unless it was deliberately using it as a device, you shouldn't accept it in worldbuilding.
I agree with you. Rhetorically, what is the demarcation between a one-off story and a greater world?
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Back in the Star Wars EU days my mantra was "it's canon of you want it to be" because the official thing where different sources had different levels of canon created massive unresolved contradictions anyway.
Only knights of the old republic is canon, actually
That, and the Ewoks tv series.
Diagetic Essentialism has entered the chat.
I never play as Nate so all this time I've been saying 'lol lmao' at his dead corpse in the icebox out of heterophobia when I could have been going 'lol lmao' because some dumb fascist war criminal got owned.
People who always pick the female character stay winning.
Also he backed down LMAO
My "Nate is NOT a war criminal!" shirt is raising a lot of questions already answered by the shirt
member of US armed forces not a war criminal
Lol the coward couldn't even stick with it.
he got a call from the Toddler.
> guy who writes the games now
>"Not every bit of Fallout info I share is automatically canon!"
Heard it here first, Fallout 3 simply didn't happen. It's just a bit of Fallout Info he shared.
Actually Nate is a war criminal, but it's so stupid that he tried to shoehorn him as the war criminal from the fallout 1 intro
If they weren't cowards they would have had you actually do this in the intro and then pulled the camera back to show Tim Horton's.
Someone drops their bottle of maple syrup in shock.
Bottle of maple syrup rolling down the stairs in slow-mo battleship potempkin style.
this would be an interesting decision if they had actually made it in the game and also if bethesda knew how to write a character.
Nate and Nora are war criminals + Nate/Nora (the player character) is a synth with constructed memories of Shaun's idealized version of his parents could have been something interesting to base the MSQ around
Only the interplay/obsidian fallouts are canon.
Emil Pagliarulo is so incredibly fucking stupid he doesn't even pronounce his own last name correctly
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I'm never playing Fallout 4, but is your main character a ghoul or something? Cause he'd have to be like 200+ years old to be that guy. This sounds dumb as hell that he even could be that guy let alone is. Fallout really shouldn't be that fucking hard to write for unless it was the first 2 games, those give you a fucktonne of setting and history to work with. A lot of New Vegas' general setting and frame was really just the logical follow up to Fallout 2. Don't get me wrong, it's fantastically written but the broad strokes of things can be handled by following the ending(s) of 2 in a pretty straightforward unsurprising way. Ya gotta make the details good but there is an historical momentum put in place by the first game and expanded on in the second that does lay put a LOT of potential groundwork for sequels.
I'm never playing Fallout 4, but is your main character a ghoul or something? Cause he'd have to be like 200+ years old to be that guy. This sounds dumb as hell that he even could be that guy let alone is.
Iirc MC (You can choose between the husband or the wife) enters the vault during the intro where China nuclear bombing the US and gets frozen for 200+ years.
That's a better backstory for an NPC than the main.
There is in fact a ghoul NPC who has been locked in a fridge for 200+ years, it's considered possibly the worst quest in the series
Also that ghoul was a child when he got locked in, and remained a child for those 200 years. The player then reunites him with his parents who are also ghouls who have been living in their house which is about a 30 second run from the fridge.
Beth insists on making every Fallout protagonist a vault dweller because they have no imagination.
The concept of the post apocalypse is totally a brand new idea that only fslloutnhas ever done and no one could get the grasp of it unless they get eased in
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Bethesda wanted Fallout 4 to be a smooth entry point into the series for some reason, probably money. The game itself has almost no connection to the other games, dialogue is heavily simplified, and the gameplay trends more towards shooter than RPG. You get a suit of power armor in the first hour if you know where you're going.
So the game starts off with a short pre-war introduction to get players up to speed on what pre-war society was like, what the apocalypse is, what vaults are, etc.
The Concord thing still bothers me.
Bethesda literally created a fucking gameplay marketing video that included a bunch of silly characters and a suit of power armor and a mini gun and a vertibird and a death claw.
And then they left that shit in the game and it's the first full quest. It's so goddamn bad and I hate all the characters especially fucking Marcy who I never look at and constantly have to hear that I'm bothering her by trying to talk to her when againz I most certainly am not.
And then they make the genius meta-move of fridging your spouse while inside a fridge
God what a spit in the eye.
I never dropped the third chapter of my playthrough
I'm never playing Fallout 4,
don't you just love it when someone working as a writer is completely incapable of identifying fascism or even war crimes? Wow I love that these people have a stranglehold over an IP I loved dearly. What a cool world where media illiteracy is so rife among the ranks of artists
I was going to say "obviously he was joking, I am Emil Pagliarulo's strongest hater but he's not that ridiculous " only to find that he was not, in fact, joking.
I'm willing to accept that he was (poorly) trying to say the soldier from FO1 was the inspiration for one of the types of people Nate could be giving the broad template of "veteran"
I mean this is pretty much Emil though, he is very much an 'improv' or 'yes and...' writer imo, that's why some of the missions he designed in thief 2 are so good because there's just a lot to discover, that style just doesn't work for narratives and stuff like we can see here.
Not the shooter!
Canadiancide?
I'm currently very torn between my staunchly held belief that every single US soldier is a war criminal and my similarly staunch belief that Canadians are not human.
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