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[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah this is horrific. I have gotten into multiple arguments with people on this site who think this is totally fine, and not at all creepy. It’s a violation of privacy and (often, but distressingly not always) a violation of the law.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think the issue is more basic than that, meaning that we should be able to create private online spaces and not share our photos and also not have a culture of sharing photos in such a way.

Deepfakes, AI and any other technology is going to happen and our way to control it is not to try and avoid technological advances but understand that our culture needs to be built upon the realization that such technology exists.

Don't get me wrong, this is horrible for so many reasons but this is a losing battle if you just try to prosecute people who do it without also tackling the core issue.

[–] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I certainly wasn’t suggesting that we only tackle this legally. In fact, I was lamenting that even here, on Lemmy, the exact problematic social dynamics you point out persist

[–] yildolw@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I do hope that the solution to this is not an iconoclastic removal of all photos from the internet

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is horrific, and as someone who has played around with these tools I'm amazed at the wonderful things they can do (I very easily touched up my work photo to give myself better clothes), but I also recognize how easily they can be abused.

We really need a change in our society where we stop with the over-sharing. Sadly, most of the time it's the parents posting images to social networks without caring who has access to view them.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is ineffective when the people generating fake nudes are classmates of the victim.

What we can do:

  • Remove shame associated with such images
  • Create a culture where sharing them is strongly discouraged
  • Provide legal recourse for those whose have falsified images shared anyways
[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Even if the parents are reasonable there are plenty of grandparents, aunts, uncles or friends parents that don't care.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely creepy and definitely a violation of privacy (especially when they get shared and even if not, singe most of these tools are cloud-hosted).

My only caveat is that teen culture regarding such things changes all the time. Boomers tried to ban my generation from sexting, because it could be abused. Didnt work obviously.

[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

This is not actions done by the two parties and could truly lead to suicides and ruined futures. This is very different.

[–] reddithalation@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Feels like the advances in AI are generally bad for everyone except nvidia and cloud providers. (You could argue its great for someone who can't code, but chatgpt and others are quite misleading, and I think they might be better off just learning to code.) AI was interesting when it was a bunch of researchers showing off cool demos, now its just horrifying.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There are examples of good things from it — the species ID suggestion tools on iNaturalist come to mind.

A lot of the generative tools are mostly destructive though.

[–] reddithalation@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, although that example kinda is one of the older, not very commercialized, tech demo uses of ai. It still could be misused, but the harm that could come from that specific app is very very minimal, compared to most uses of ai now.