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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

WB owning the patent for the Nemesis system really sucks.

Those games were amazing because of the system, but because WB is a shit show, they won't use it again and no one else can do anything similar

[–] runjun@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looking back, the nemesis system and active reloading in GOW not being implemented in other games made me realize the old style of game creation of implementing and improving was over. The nemesis system is truly innovative and there was several times that I was like fuck Sauron, this random orc that got several lucky kills on me MUST be destroyed.

[–] BakedGoods@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Intellectual property kills innovation, slows down technological development, and consolidates resources.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I really don't think the patent would hold up if someone made a similar system.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It took 6 years to get it approved, but lots of stupider patents still stand.

You can't count on common sense for stuff like this.

[–] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No one ever bothers stepping on the toes of patents like these, so it's entirely possible that it wouldn't hold up. It's not a guaranteed win (nothing is), but doing nothing just lets corpos step all over artists in yet another way. We need more people, like Ross from Accursed Farms, to stand up for us, and we need devs willing to fight back against these ridiculous patents.

[–] shani66@ani.social 3 points 1 year ago

Technically it shouldn't, but that's never stopped legal abuse before

[–] TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow it came out in 2014 and was patented in 2021 which means it's locked until 2028? That's not fair. The patent should have been 2014-2021 not 2021-2028. How can you patent something that's already released to the public, why is that allowed.

[–] Anyolduser@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago

If.they delayed filing the patent they were more vulnerable than they had to be for those years. They would have had a weaker case to sue if someone imitated the system in their own game between the public learning about it and their patent filing date.

Of course it's worth mentioning that a competitor making something TOO similar (as in a copy or clone) would have run into the territory of copyright law, which requires no filing for protections to take effect.

[–] Ithral@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, cool hadn't realized Mordor was originally a Batman game

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea I didn't know that either. It does make sense that they didn't want two different batman universe games... But now we have the suicide squad so...

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I remember my brother describing the gameplay as a mix between Arkham and Assassin's Creed so the fact that it was originally going to be a Batman game makes sense to me.

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Yea I would agree with that. Imo shadow of Mordor is more assassin's creed than the new ac games