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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ok, gotcha. trains are too expensive, so we're doing 3 diesel buses that cover 1/8 of your city and nowhere else. and we're adding a lane to 50 highways cause fuck you

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what do you mean oooaaaaaaauhhh you have a perfectly good car to drive around?

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The oooooaaaaaaauuuhhh was actually their wallet dyin from the lifetime commitment to oil.

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think hydrogen buses and trucks actually have a use case over battery EVs, being that they're much faster to refuel.

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trolleybuses

BEV buses allow for partial trolleyification

BEV trucks getting powered by overhead wires on a highway is another interesting throught

[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

sorry bro that would make too much sense

[–] AutomatedPossum@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

The absolute madlads did it, they built the hindenbumper

[–] WafflesTasteGood@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (6 children)

My understanding is this isn't really that big of a deal. Hydrogen fuel cells aren't anywhere near as bad as stuffing lithium batteries in a vehicle at least.

Ultimately doesn't matter tho since hydrogen cars are just PR fluff and a way to snag eco tax breaks or other nonsense. Hydrogen really likes to leak out of everything and it's causes weird corrosion and breakdown of metals. This makes storage and delivery complicated and impractical for both large infrastructure like gas stations and on the individual vehicles in the fuel cell and connection lines.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Works great for zeppelins, though.

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apparently Japan has some decent hydrogen infrastructure. A friend rented a car in Japan and it was hydrogen powered.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Japan wants to import (synthesized with renewables) ammonia to burn in thermal power plants. Their future energy policy is pretty ridiculous. Like, if you're actually considering ammonia power plants then you might as well just build a big solar farm in geosynchronous orbit.

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

a big solar farm in geosynchronous orbit.

Last I heard JAXA was planning to launch a proof-of-concept for this technology in 2025, dunno if that's still on schedule or not.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Okay go off Japan curry-space

Yeah, Hydrogen cars are basically a pet cause of some Toyota executives to my understanding.

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

the only people I ever see talking about hydrogen are boomers. I think they just can't imagine a world where they operate their car with different expectations & routines than the current world.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

You just described the main problems with hydrogen cars. They offer no practical advantage over any typical EV. Typical lithium batteries are around twice as effective as hydrogen fuel cells and don't have any of the complicated problems with storage/delivery/etc. Furthermore the obvious solution is to have fewer cars.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

When it comes to hydrogen my worry isn't the cars, it's the gas stations

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 year ago

A hydrogen explosion will be much more forceful than a lithium battery fire.

[–] jared@mander.xyz 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why the hell I can't ever understand outsider comments.

I'm not attacking you, it's just really weird, whenever I get a reply from another instance I can never even get what are they talking about

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] AFineWayToDie@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Good times, bad times, you know I've had my share

When my woman left home for a brown-eyed man

But I still don't seem to care

[–] gunter@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

The news guy at the time covering the hindenburg at one point in the video of the crash says "oh the humanity"

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Update: I should have tried googling a little bit, I'm sorry

[–] jared@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Don't worry no defense taken, thanks for being cool.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

one of my chud coworkers was talking about this excitedly. He keeps saying things like "The next logical step is nuclear cars."

The logical step is to have fewer cars to begin with, not fitting them with even more explosive expensive things. Build trains and busses. Hydrogen fuel cell cars already exist and they have literally no benefits over a typical battery powered EV other than they make bigger, cooler looking explosions.

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

no, no, no. we will build parking lot.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

1950s scifi continues to weigh like a nightmare on the brains of the living.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always hated the flying cars promise. Flying planes already exist and work fine (mostly). Flying cars is just adding more lanes in the air rather than just...making bus and bike lanes or something normal

[–] booty@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flying cars soypoint-2 people are just people who fantasize about being the only guy with a flying car and never thought about what happens when someone else also has a flying car

[–] D61@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Force them to watch the opening 20 minutes or so of "The Fifth Element" on a loop until they change their mind.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Car companies making their cars follow video game rules like it's the villains driving them.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

not a problem unless the lawsuits start getting expensive

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago
[–] D61@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Ford Pinto 2.

explosion