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Now we're gonna get all the lemmy people pouring in here talking about how Hexbear loves Trump.

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[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump is an opportunistic grifter while Biden is an ideologically-committed Zionist and imperialist who thinks the only issue here is that the PR is bad.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

This makes me think Trump could help by sheer, dumb luck, but then I remembered that an opportunistic grifter isn't going to challenge the military-industrial complex in any meaningful way.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I made this very point to the lib who was trying to browbeat people into supporting Biden here the other day, followed by tagging them when Trump immediately did this.

Naturally they couldn't resist the Trump reference and have DM'd me with the more vacuous shit. We'll see if they respond to my message. I'd be happy with an actual argument or dunk tank material but I suspect I'll get neither.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He's also against the TikTok ban, Trump just has better political instincts than Biden.

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 78 points 1 year ago

Look at how fucking low the bar is. Biden just falls face first in front of it instead of clearing it.

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are you talking about? He literally tried to ban it and only changed his mind after meeting a megadonor who's put a lot of money into tiktok.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 81 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey I never said Trump had good political instincts lol

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Yes that was then.

Now he says it's bad because it would hand too much power to facebook or some shit. Point is he says he'd reverse it.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

lmao he's gonna be the harm reduction candidate

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 64 points 1 year ago (3 children)

to be absolutely real project 2025 is just straight up Nazi shit

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

i guess i don't think they can pull it off, or that the democrats won't go on to do it but called project 2029 anyway.

[–] brainw0rms@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Project 2025 is msnbc LIB fear porn. Republicans cant even get the house in order with a majority, let alone act as a cohesive unit. We saw the dysfunction of the last Trump admin, there is no reason to think another one will be any different lol.

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

there is no reason to think another one will be any different lol.

Hitlerites are incompetent but always manage to do horrible shit anyways

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Incompetent people can do wild things when they control the levers of state power

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I think it is both a threat and fearmongering shit. It will absolutely keep happening at the state level. Some stuff will happen at the Federal level, but there will be to much dysfunction to do it at the scale the red states will do it at.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

Trump: "Damn, this looks really bad. My political instincts are telling me people would like it if I said war was bad."

Liberals: "We must do the opposite of anything Trump says, so I guess now we're all just openly thirsting for genocide."

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

He arguably was last time since Biden has been worse on pretty much everything simply by not being too lazy to work

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trump: loses all his money in lawsuits, thus loses his bougie status

becomes radicalized toward communism

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Puyification knows no limits

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Another Red Scare is started by Trump-obsessed libs

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

empty words, this is the mf who moved the us embassy from tel aviv

[–] AutomatedPossum@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

also the mfer whose sons in law is already talking about all the exciting new waterfront properties that will soon be available in Gaza

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

the 'gaza question' in the US Presidential Election:

genocide and oil speculation vs. genocide and luxury tump-branded gaza hotel vote

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 year ago
[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trump and Trump supporters seem to be holding up the Abraham Accords as Trump’s big accomplishment in the region, which would’ve supposedly led to a resolution of the Israel-Palestine conflict.

Of course the problem is here is that peace does not equal a just solution to the conflict. The Abraham Accords were always pro-Israeli, with the explicitly stated goal of isolating the Palestinians in the region and forcing them to come to the table with Israel, which they would’ve done from a weak position at that point. And of course the Abraham Accords relied on quid pro quos that led to further destabilization in the region - selling weapons to the UAE and Bahrain during the Yemen conflict, destabilizing the Sudanese peace process, and recognizing Moroccan sovereignty over Western Sahara. So although Trump is going to tout peace and we’re going to be subjected to a new round of “trump was an antiwar president,” his idea of peace is a pro-Israeli one and far from what our idea of what peace in the region looks like.

[–] Cherufe@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump stance means nothing as his actions follow no coherent ideology except self promotion

[–] LaForgeRayBans@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

He probably wont 180 harder than Milei, maybe like 120-150, Im not going to vote but if theres an endorsement from Palestinians for a US candidate I probably will. I doubt it, but it wouldnt take much for me to vote for literally anyone, anyone who literally just goes on a stage and says free Palestine gets my vote, and no one is going to do that, its insane. The politicians arent even willing to lie about it. There is not a single person on the ballot who is pro Palestine. I fucking hate this country and its people.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If I genuinely believed that Trump would stop the war in Palestine I would advocate for Trump as the lesser evil.

I don't believe that. And Biden won't either. So I advocate for neither. But you would see me openly state that people should vote for him if I believed it.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

Trump is a failure at so many things, but reading the room is not one of them.

[–] Rx_Hawk@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

No, just no...

Motherfucker, both people can say the same thing and both cannot mean those things

As much as Joe Biden or Trump would like to say they want less war, unless their actions match what they say in foreign policy (and that's a very RARE treat, compared to asking for covid bailouts), they should go fuck themselves...

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago
[–] Rom@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Biden being outflanked on the left by Donald fucking Trump.

[–] HamManBad@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

This is Nixon saying he'll end the Vietnam war

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I really hope this is real because if Donald Trump thinks Israel is seriously damaging its reputation across the world, it means all pro-Palestinian movements and protests are having an effect. They've managed to spook the upper class

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Won't this lose him a bunch of zionist support? Lmao

[–] regul@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump will get 43% of the vote pretty much no matter what he does.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah you're likely right...

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

No, because they'll just tune this bit out and insist Trump is the only one strong enough to beat Hamas.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

If I were to vote for the lesser evil, that lesser evil is Trump if he's saying stuff like this.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

keyword "seems to be"

i know we here on hexbear are smarter than to actually believe him, right? like he sees that it's one of biden's biggest failures so he's like "obviously i wouldn't be fucking this up so bad" and as soon as he gets in office he's gonna sit down with netanyahu and they're going to flesh out a 10 point plan to get hamas to come to the negotiating table by executing a palestinian child every hour on israeli national television.

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Why are we acting like Biden hasn't been spouting the same empty anti-war rhetoric for moths?

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean of course Trump is just pandering/bullshitting as usual but wouldn't that be something if that were to ever occur?

[–] Voidance@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Everyone has always noted about Trump that if he was smart enough (or allowed?) to outflank the Dems on left issues that were overwhelmingly popular (and a generally anti-war stance would be one) that he could dominate US politics. I mean this is the strategy of European fascists like Le Pen too - outflank the neoliberal centrists on populist issues

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

If Trump just cooled it slightly on the Anti Woke shit he could be the American Peron. The second coming of Long.

The next century would be between the right and left Trumpists, lead by increasingly inbread failsons.

This isn't an endorsement of Trump, but just like the Lanyard class yearn for the bloodless technocratic fascism of a Salazar, the American base yearns for a reactionary Social Democratic showman.