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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why is something like a king "natural"?

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 72 points 1 year ago

It's called the animal kingdom not the animal commune! Checkmate anarchists!

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

You sound like someone who doesn't believe in divine right.

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[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 48 points 1 year ago (2 children)

True conservatives will embrace the Amish lifestyle and get the fuck off the internet.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"True conservatives" aren't people who don't want change; that's just a lie they tell to make their ideology seem less unhinged. True conservatives are, and always have been, people who crave hierarchy and autocratic rule.

In other words, "true conservatives" have absolutely no problems with change or new technology, as long as it's used to enforce their privilege rather than elevate the people below them.

[–] GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 year ago

This. Its about preserving power structures and that's it, they deserve power and others don't, that's what they believe. So many times you see people try to gotcha conservatives by pointing out how their ideology is inconsistent when in reality its very consistent just not in the way they advertise it as.

[–] KillingAndKindess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

True conservatives would never be caught with the modern clothes and tools of the Amish. The real kool kids klub lives Buck naked in caves and huts made of broken sticks.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

See also: single-family zoning. "Everybody wants" to live in detached houses, yet they need the law to prohibit property owners from building multifamily...

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

nimbys: nobody wants multifamily homes
home developers: i got a bunch of people who would pay me $ to build cheap multi family ho-
nimbys: I SAID n̶̨̊o̵͍͑b̴͚̾ǫ̸̍ḓ̷͌y̷͇͊ ̸͇͛w̸͖̓a̵͇̋n̸̘͠t̸͍͗s̸͚̒ ̸̠̕m̷̼͊ü̵̟l̴̜͛t̶̯͊i̷̭͠f̶͎͗ä̵̭́m̸̨̕i̵̫͊l̷͛ͅẙ̷̩ ̷͈̎h̷̘͂ơ̴̗m̴̱̊ȅ̵̙s̴̥̕

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[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

The hubris one must have to believe they alone have interpreted nature and understood it's will and order.

Then, to enforce it.

[–] HogsTooth@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nature doesn't give 2 shits about us. It's about rules. The rules that enable them and disable us.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I think of the same thing when people talk about "life isn't fair" or "the world" generally or whatever. Like sure we don't live in a just universe (whatever the fuck that'd look like) but it's not life causing a lot of the problems that people respond to with these platitudes, it's fucking people.... And the people responsible are sometimes the same ones dropping the platitudes.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It'll look kinda like a bunch of species that evolved thriving in cooperation rather than competition or something. I unno, I am no galactic citizen

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Show me the culture that prohibits women from photosynthisizing or men from running faster than light

[–] FrowingFostek@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The right wing and hierarchy, like pb&j. They love rules and a king, not so much for them but, more for other people. They demand you be controlled.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

The "natural order" is limitted to communities of about ~~100~~150 individuals. It isn't suitable to organize whole countries.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Also, a groups banding together to collectively overthrow a stronger opponent is natural. There's a rule of never getting between a mother and her baby with many animals for a reason, even though most of us could probably take that baby.

There's personal benefit to dealing with those who abuse their powers (physical, social, or technological), even if those powers aren't being directed at you.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Humans are natural, so really anything we do is the natural order.

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[–] Scrof@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What happened to man vs. nature? Why is it always man vs. man these days? Natural order is fucking horrible. It's a literal world of terror, suffering and death.

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