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    [–] DannyMac@lemm.ee 45 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    What are the distros that would align with these categories?

    Cool, more free stuff:

    Not again!

    Ooh, only Ubuntu pro:

    • Ubuntu
    [–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    1st: Fedora
    2nd: Arch

    Debian would be: "nothing changed!" (with a sad or happy guy depending on use case)

    [–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    With Debian it's more like "cool, everything still works as expected."

    Source: I don't use Arch btw.

    [–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Your arch system would probably have updates unless you just updated within the last few minutes. Being suprised seems a bit unnecessary.

    [–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    I sometimes update out of habit almost immediately after I updated. That's always a little disappointing.

    [–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    And then you actually have a new update available... Happens to me to often

    [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

    Oh god, me too. It's a Pavlovian response!

    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

    Finally, a use for the * * * * * * cron expression!

    [–] Tyoda@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If you're on Arch, then you want those tasty hourly updates om nom nom

    source: I use Arch btw

    [–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    All I wanna do is sudo pacman -Syu

    [–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    paru -Syu, you don't want to forget your AUR packages, right?

    [–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You can do the same with just paru. No flags necessary.

    [–] blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Or save yourself a character and just yay

    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Heathen, using any software not written in rust is sacrilege

    [–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] turbowafflz@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

    Exactly what I always do, since I have to use a kernel not written in rust I uninstall the kernel once I've booted so it's only in memory and no longer tainting my storage with its impurity

    [–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

    I'll even add some characters and use pikaur

    [–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I like to be a bit more explicit than necessary.

    [–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

    Explicit is better than implicit.

    Unless you're trying to get a movie or game to get a teen-friendly rating, in which case you might not want to make the sex scenes quite as explicit.

    [–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I have seen horrors beyond comprehension because i tried updating aur packages

    [–] TwilightKiddy@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Well, it's easy enough if you only use precompiled packages. Beyond that you should probably have a better understanding of what you are doing.

    [–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

    Oh no i know what im doing. I just had dependency hell way to often with aur packages so i just dont update them anymore unless i need to do so

    [–] Laser@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

    Not being able to Syu every 5 minutes and only being able to update once a day was the biggest challenge when I changed to NixOS

    [–] Tyoda@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I don't think the first two are distro specific, more a question of mindset. Unless there are distros that force update your system like some other OSs, which could cause the second picture to happen more often.

    [–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

    On fedora atomic all updates are automatic. I don't even see that they happen. They just happen in the background. I love it.

    [–] Tyoda@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Neat! I was just thinking, if it starts updating the kernel as you turn it off, you'd have to wait a minute for it to finish. M$ style. Has that never happened?

    [–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    No. That's not how it works. It installs a new image alongside the current one and once you boot again it simply boots into the new image. Never ever wait for an update again.

    [–] Tyoda@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Oh right, atomic distros work differently, didn't think about that! That is convenient!

    [–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Very convenient because if something happens where the update breaks something, you can just boot the previous image.

    [–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Does it give you a choice at startup, similar to the Grub menu, or do you have to do something to bring the option up?

    [–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    That looks really handy, thanks :)

    I've just downloaded Fedora Kinoite to try with my Ventoy drive (I refer the KDE layout :) )

    [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 years ago

    For even less pain try a ublue variant (Aurora or Bazzite probably for KDE depending if you game). No faffing around with codecs and RPMFusion etc...

    [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago

    Literally is the grub menu...

    [–] jmf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

    Nope thats exactly how it works, gives you an entry in grub for the prior image.

    [–] Rustmilian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    They're also very stable do to the image-based VCS.

    [–] bluewing@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

    If Fedora plays nice this time around, I'm seriously considering Kinninte and Atomic Budgie for 41. (But Fedora always ends badly for me)

    [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    How are you getting it to do that? Fedora wants to reboot every day for me, even for the simplest update.

    [–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

    Fedora atomic, e.g. silverblue, not traditional fedora. It still wants to reboot after each update but I don't see it and when I reboot, it boots into the update.

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

    The first could be any decent distro like Debian, Fedora, Mint.

    The second would probably be rolling release because of the amount of packages lmao.

    [–] tuna@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago

    I was thinking that the user intentionally chose their distro, because of the Ubuntu character.

    Cool, more free stuff

    Arch, you want more free stuff faster

    Not again!

    Debian, you want to set and forget, so any updates that do come up are still a nuisance

    • Arch
    • Arch
    • Ubuntu Pro