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Do we use a glue or cement to join 2 PVC pipes. Its for the reticulation system which will be underground.

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[–] yoz@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is primer really necessary? Cleaning the joint with a cloth will work ? I checked and I can o my get 250ml from bunnings which I don't think I am ever going to use. Seems like a waste for money ?

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yup.

I use glue-only for an above ground i want to break at some point and recoup parts. I use primer when i want it permanent. Glue only a strong twist can break it. Primer you're gonna have to get the saw.

[–] Treevan@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To put it in simple terms, the priming fluid sets up the PVC cement to do its job properly. The primer acts as a cleaner, removing grime as a PVC cleaner does, and it also softens the surface that it is applied on. PVC pipes are joined together through a change in their chemical composition.

(High) Pressure it likely matters, you want a strong bond. Stormwater/downpipes, probably not.

Not a plumber.

I just did a quick websearch for both these answers, try a deep dive on some Reno forums or similar, find a plumber or chemical expert as to why it's important.

Another one:

https://redlib.perennialte.ch/r/Plumbing/comments/camh2c/is_pvc_primer_reeeeeally_necessary_when_youre/

Quote:

You may as well just silicone the pipes together.

The primer softens the pipe to prep for the fusion process.

Without primer the glue is essentially just a gap filler.

That oatey cleaner you are talking about is for ABS pipe usually.

ABS doesnt require a primer but is often suggested to use that cleaner prior to application.

A link:

https://www.plumbingsupply.com/the-great-pvc-primer-debate.html

[–] yoz@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah thanks bro. I'll buy both cement and primer tomorrow. Cheers

[–] Treevan@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

The graphs in that link are decent. It's a significant increase in bonding and if you are under pressure, definitely do it.

And I used to work with a plumber who used primer to set joints on fire to pull them apart again. Another use of primer that isn't on the label.