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My view on why anti China propaganda is so effective in the west (mas.to)
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[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And China has just about as many of those capitalism problems as we do.

Do you really think China has all of the same capitalism problems?

China doesn't have:

  • a rampant and actively ignored homeless problem
  • widespread food insecurity, including among children
  • a disgustingly large and widening wealth gap, with the government bribery that comes with it
  • inaccessible or unaffordable healthcare for a large portion of its population, especially those most needing of it
  • reversal of child labor laws and increasing promotion of its use
  • destruction of the education system and villifying those seeking to escape generational poverty
  • a massive and increasing renting population (compared to those with outright ownership), spending an increasingly large fraction of their constantly decreasing wages on housing
  • an incarceration rate nearly five times average developed nations driven largely by for-profit prisons and slave labor performed by the imprisoned

Does China have problems related to capitalism's influence? Of course. Does it have as many, or do they permeate it so deeply and thoroughly? Of course not.

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As soon as someone says "China's capitalist too" it's a sign that they are sorely lacking information on how Chinese system actually functions and it makes me wonder if they've even bothered trying to learn about it at all. The comparison is ludicrous at this point.

[–] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In general I agree, it's just from the specific comment I replied to it isn't immediately obvious if they're saying "China is suffering from the same problems as capitalist states (despite not being one)" or if they're saying "China is suffering from the same problems because it's also capitalist".

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

I'm gonna guess it's the latter, given the democracy comment.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago

But even more importantly than this is, the issues China does have are being solved. This isn’t true for the west. China is on an upward trajectory in almost every way and the west is going down in almost every way