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Don't you feel it's a bit counterintuitive to call someone tonedeaf for being unaware of "International Day of Solidarity with Long Term Anarchist Prisoners", something that more than 99.9999% of people are likely unaware of?
Wouldn't you be better off, say, helping build awareness of such a day instead of simply berating someone for not knowing about it? At the moment, you're teaching people to treat it like a joke.
Right... like you didn't grow up watching the International Day of Solidarity with Long Term Anarchist Prisoners special every year with the rest of us
Western liberals aren't aware of it because they've segregated themselves off from the folks in their community most subject to political prisoners.
But then lots of Western Liberals clap and cheer when an anarchist group gets raided by the police and dragged off to prison.
Sounds like you're just blaming people for not being as smart and enlightened as you because you're so special you knew about an obscure day that almost nobody outside your usual bubble has heard of.
You could have actually brought awareness to that fact, but you decided to be a petulant clown instead. Bravo.
The Black Panthers were notable, back in the 1970s, with their leaders either arrested on phony charges or killed in police raids.
Occupy Wall Street members were routinely subjected to arrest and detention in the wake of the '08 Recession.
Wikileaks was another big one in the early '10s, with its major contributors and journalists all arrested or forced into hiding.
The Black Lives Matter movement had many of its early leaders jailed or killed, before the various social media organizing tags were hijacked by online media personalities.
The Black Panther Party was explicitly Marxist-Leninist. There were probably some Anarchist members, but the party line was ML.
Yeah Malcom X was clearly trying to divide the left.
Liberals aren't on the left, it only seems that way to you because you percieve yourself as left yet support the status quo.
Holy moly, lmao. No, I am not a sockpuppet, nor am I an authoritarian. What in the world scratched you so much?
Also, all Socialism is democratic, do you mean you're a reformist, or support Scandinavian style Social Democracy?
Liberal is defined as being a supporter of liberalism.
Liberalism is the dominant ideology in much of the world, which believes in Private Property Rights and thus supports the Capitalist Status Quo.
Liberalism was considered "left" during the French Revolution, against the Monarchy, but is now a right wing ideology as opposed to Socialism.
It doesn't take being a "tankie" to know what Liberalism is, lmao. Definitely not a sockpuppet and certainly not susceptible to misinformation, you just generally are ill-informed and violently upset.
You defined Liberalism as simply "being on the left." This is untrue, it's a Capitalist ideology and therefore at minimum on the right. Liberalism may claim to be in favor of free speech and equality, but the fact that wealthy people control speech and inherently create class society proves this hollow.
I do disagree with Capitalism, I am a Socialist. Liberalism should be attacked. Leftism will become the majority as Capitalism continues to decline worldwide and inequality continues to skyrocket, individuals being "nicer" about spreading theory will not speed this process up. That belief is Utopianism.
It is absolutely a Capitalist ideology, because Liberalism centers around Private Property Rights. The idea is "the freer the markets, the freer the people." No, I do not mean Libertarianism.
We should be pushing for better lives for everyone, yes. Capitalism, the system by which competing Capital Owners exploit workers via taking the surplus value of their labor, is not working. Exploitation is rising, wages are stagnating with respect to productivity, and the Tendency for the Rate of Profit to Fall is causing this exploitation to be exported to the Global South. This endless M-C-M' circuit by which commodity production services accumulation into fewer and fewer hands results in obscene wealth and power in the hands of the few.
That's Capitalism, and that's what I oppose, and presumably you as well. I know very well what Capitalism is, why it's bad, why it cannot last forever, and why Socialism is better.
It is centered on Private Property, because it's focused on Capitalism. Property Rights are largely what separates liberals from Socialists.
Exploitation is rising in the long term. Pinkertons stopped murdering because American Unions crumbled and manufacturing was largely moved overseas, where we super-exploit for super-profits.
Liberals have been dragged kicking and screaming by radicals for their entire existance forward.
I am referring to Liberalism the ideology, and those who follow it. Of course I am speaking of the average, do you expect me to make a poll?
Most liberals like to think that they are pro-union, but Capitalism has crushed most American Unions. Most liberals think they are anti-exploitation, but support Capitalism, which is necessarily exploitative. Most liberals are indeed pro Social Programs, but not Socialism, and so they generally fall short of enacting actual change.
I am not mixing up thatcher-esque Neoliberalism with the enitrety of Liberalism. The Unions in America weren't crushed because a random powerful figure took office, but because over a long period of weakening them and conflict that also led to the conditions for Reagan to take president.
Capitalism is not trade, I already explained what Capitalism is to you earlier. Exploitation isn't when someone is unhappy, it's the way Capitalists make profit, by paying workers less than the Value they create.
Socialism is Worker Ownership of the Means of Production.
All in all, you should probably read Wage Labor and Capital.
Just gonna piggyback on that malcom x comment and say “yeah, I’m real sure mlk was trying to divide the left.”
Yeah, maybe. That's not the main issue I have with the meme, though.
Then, construct your comment in a way that conveys such information without automatically ostracizing them from ever having sympathy for your cause. You're never going to build curiosity in those unaware of your cause if you begin by chasing them away.