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[โ€“] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Personally I think a lot of TERFs became that way because they get misgendered a lot (by other humans mostly) especially when they dress butch. (She's not dressing butch here, and ftr I would have guessed female.)

They have decided it's transwomen who are at fault because their existence opens people's minds to the idea that a person's chromosomes might not match their clothing. People are just trying to address them as they're presenting.

The real problem is that there's still societal stigma attached to being misgendered. And still more societal stigma attached to being trans. Which they're internalizing, and then making worse, instead of working to recast it as a simple error in judgement by the person using the wrong pronoun.

The ones who are really at fault are those who for generations have purposely misgendered other people as a slur meant to wound. Who've cast femininity as weak and masculinity as ugly. Especially now when they should know better. They make it worse for those of us who might make an honest mistake or even just want a polite way to ask. If every first conversation started with telling each other one's pronouns, and every reference to an unintroduced person used they/them, you'd be able to ask without seeming to cast doubt on who they are.

And the other problem is the imbalances of power and privilege attached to gender in general of course. It would hit a lot different if a person's gender wasn't treated like a big part of who they are and where they stand in humanity.

Tldr: TERFs aren't just mad about being misgendered as men, (wrong but at least higher status) they're mostly mad about being misgendered as trans (wrong and lower status).

Stick, ๐Ÿšฒ, "Trans did this!"

[โ€“] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I assumed most terfs were cis het gender conforming people. Is there data showing that one way or another?

[โ€“] ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most are, yeah. IIRC, cis lesbians are the demographic most likely out of anyone to support trans rights outside of trans people themselves, by a large margin.

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