This shit has seriously gone on too long. People who continue to cling to the "10,000 dead crushed by tanks hosed i to the gutter" bs are cranks. It's jews control the banks, chemtrails, the earth is flat, the moon isn't real level of crank shit and unless you're feeling very indulgent and someone is asking in good faith it can be dismissed as equally serious to that kind of crank shit.

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[–] astreus@lemmy.ml 96 points 1 year ago (25 children)

My favourite bit is when Wikipedia itself is like "the 10,000 claim was made by one dude who basically instantly retracted it and claimed the still unplausibly high number of 2,000".

Also, the Tank Man photographer talks about the protestors throwing molotov cocktails and beating police officers to death.

And the whole "China pretends it didn't happen"...they have official death estimates. 300 people. The US have their own estimate. 900 people. But no matter the number, it was much fewer than the protest leaders had hoped for.

To quote one of the protest leaders "What we actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes" - Chai Ling

By the way, that person is alive and well running a firm that fires people for not praying at work.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Chai Ling is great, there is a lot more from that interview where she just openly displays what an unhinged monster she is, like when she adds to that part that the students are stupid and unworthy of her sacrifice, which is why she plans to escape (and though she didn't leave quite as quickly as she seemed to plan, she did leave quickly enough that she wasn't around for when the "massacre" would have happened)

Oh! And it's also important to note that it was her interviews with western outlets following fleeing the conflict that produced the "tanks mulching corpses" story

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