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[–] netwren@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

One of the few things I've actually liked from Intel. Of course it's not profitable enough.

I hate that "profit" is the driving decision on everything. Does this product have value for our customer? Do our customers like this product. I actually know dozens of folks who enjoy and use NUCs. For hobbies, for work.

One of the most dystopian parts of modern society is that we got co-opted into believing that companies exist to make their owners/investors rich when they should be a vehicle for a group of people (employees) accomplish a goal that's greater than an individual can accomplish. That means it's OKAY to make a decision that results in less profit if it helps to achieve the company's vision!

Providing consumers with budget friendly hobby PC's should be what Intel's mission is. Getting computing accessible, easy to use, compact.

Doesn't provide enough shareholder value 🀒

Edit: Also since this article focuses on Intel competing with OEMS. Why shouldn't the OEMs face competition? Intel introduced this format because OEMs were just shipping the same design and format, rinse and repeat like a money printing device. No innovation. Why? Shareholder value 🀒

[–] ShadowRam@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But isn't ARM just a hell of a lot better than any of these intel chips?

Everything I've seen that's small form factor and low power is going ARM, and the list of things not compatible with ARM is getting real small.

[–] RagingToad@feddit.nl 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lower power is ARM, but aren't X86 CPUs not still a lot faster? (While my Raspberry Pi 4 can barely run a Minecraft server, my 50$ SFF can run 2 servers at the same time and still has plenty of CPU cycles left)

Power consumption is higher ofcourse, but I exchanged 3 Pi's (3*10W) with one SFF (25W) so it's fine :-)

[–] gramathy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s a design consideration, not an actual problem. Remember the pi is also not running natively, and that the quite good M chips from Apple are ARM-based.

[–] RagingToad@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

I don't fully understand. What's the design consideration? My biggest problem is actually that the least power hungry CPU (arm) has very little options if you want to run a server with a bit more processing power.

If you mean that Minecraft is not native.. this is Java , so everything runs in the JVM independent of platform.

I might need a Mac Mini as a server and install Linux on it (is that still an option?) like some kind of NUC...

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